It's crazy when you look at SEC politics over the decades

[SheltonChoked]

I don't think you can use Stadium size as a comparison. When we only played non -Conference teams in Starkville, and all of our big games, every year, on the road. Why did we need more than 40,000 seats? Whereas, of it was like today and a home and home set up, we would have needed a 60,000 seat stadium earlier.

This biggest challenge State has is making up for the 60 years of selling out the Athletic Department. It just looks like we really didn't care. And the whole reason Ole Miss had any success was avoiding the SEC big 6. Vaught routinely scheduled out of conference games as SEC games somehow while avoiding the big 6.

[Bothrops]

We were our own worst enemy during the 20th century, and even up until 2009. Nowadays, it's the media.

[BrunswickDawg]

Our lost decade of the 1950s is where our program was broken. We were competitive in facility size and on the field through the 30s and 40s. Scott field was expanded in 1948 to 35,000 - comparable to almost everyone other than UT. But, from 1952-1960 we never had more than 2 home SEC games a season. It was common for us to have 3 home games a season - 2 stinkers and 1 SEC team. Playing 2/3 of your schedule on the road is a death sentence. So people quit coming. Then in the 1960s, everyone else expanded from 35-40,000 seats to powerhouse stadiums:
UGA 59,200 (67-80)
AU 61,261 (70-79)
Bama 60,210 (66-87)
UF 62,800 (66-81)
LSU 67,700+/- (56-77)
UM 35,000 +/- (50-79)
MS 35,000 +/- (48-85)

(I left out UT because they were on another planet from a capacity standpoint)
When the big boom came in the 1980s, we were left holding our dicks wondering what happened.

That's why I just won't get upset about 7-9 win seasons. We are trying to make up for some really, really shitty history.

[tcdog70]

Ole Miss actually counted games vs Chattanooga as a SEC game on occasions. Don't forget that We played the Gators every year for a long while and finished up with LSU-auburn-Bama and Ole Miss.That was pretty much 5 L's every year. if we won 6 games we were elated.

[Reason2succeed]

Historical injustices have no bearing on present inequities. Stop whining.***

[Taog Redloh]

Historical injustices have no bearing on present inequities. Stop whining.***

^^^^^ dayumm.......that'll make you think.

However, before you embark on a SJW campaign......know that I consider MSU itself to be the root of most of its problems, not the SEC elite.

[Jack Lambert]

Big word for a Bama fan

Did you know the Bigger the A in the back window means lower the intelligence?

[TUSK]

Did you know the Bigger the A in the back window means lower the intelligence?

nooooooooooooooo, doubt!!!!!!!! I'm with ya 100% on that one...

[TaleofTwoDogs]

"We have met the enemy and he is us."...Pogo

Great thread guys, facts have finally got in the way of reality. The lost years costed us dearly compared to our peers in the conference. Hopefully, the apathy of those years will never return and the state can truly support two SEC teams not just the team up north.

[Reason2succeed]

^^^^^ dayumm.......that'll make you think.

However, before you embark on a SJW campaign......know that I consider MSU itself to be the root of most of its problems, not the SEC elite.

HAHA! I would NEVER do that.*** I know it's not apples to apples but it was just too enticing.

Back to topic. I think this history is the reason why unlike OM we must steer clear of going all out for championships. OM wants to return to glory years that were propped up by avoiding the elite teams. Now they are simply trying to cheat their way into the conversation. However, the NCAA is about to put them back in their place because they were committing fraud in order to catch up.

We are making great progress the right way. As much as people complain Mullen and especially about Hevesy this is still the golden age of Mississippi State football. We need to position ourselves so that if/when Mullen leaves State we are able to continue building upon what he has built. Unlike OM who's next coach will be picking up the pieces from the ashes left by Hypocrite Hugh.