MSU to Implement Clear Bag Policy at all Athletic Events starting this season

[TheRef]

My wife is diabetic so she brings her supplies. And we've also still got one in diapers, so we bring all of those supplies too, and a change of clothes for the little one.

Just an FYI, I'm sure medical supply bags will be good to go. Diapers and change of clothes, however, will need to be in the clear bag.

[TheRef]

What is it going to stop? There's no metal detectors or pat downs. Anything that could've fit in a small non-clear bag could just as easily be planted on you somewhere. This will be about as effective and useful as the TSA airports.

You're less likely to hide things in a plastic bag than one that could easily have hidden pockets. Also, I know you would be bitching and moaning if we started having metal detectors and pat downs. This is to help speed up the process even more, while still providing good security measures. But hey...if you want to do a full pat down before going into every single game, then be my guest. I'll talk to my people and tell you exactly which gate to go through for your special pat down, sleepy.

[sandwolf]

What is it going to stop? There's no metal detectors or pat downs. Anything that could've fit in a small non-clear bag could just as easily be planted on you somewhere. This will be about as effective and useful as the TSA airports.

You don't think the TSA does anything to improve safety?

[scottycameron]

You're less likely to hide things in a plastic bag than one that could easily have hidden pockets. Also, I know you would be bitching and moaning if we started having metal detectors and pat downs. This is to help speed up the process even more, while still providing good security measures. But hey...if you want to do a full pat down before going into every single game, then be my guest. I'll talk to my people and tell you exactly which gate to go through for your special pat down, sleepy.

WTH would you need to do a pat down on anybody entering our stadium? Where the hell do y'all come up with this crap? What do you people think we are sneaking into DWS?

[TheRef]

WTH would you need to do a pat down on anybody entering our stadium? Where the hell do y'all come up with this crap? What do you people think we are sneaking into DWS?

Nothing more than some alcohol and the occasional knife. I was being completely sarcastic about pat downs.

[msujan]

They have some cute ones at The Lodge. I got mine to go to the Orange Bowl, but I actually saw some today in the store.

[War Machine Dawg]

WTH would you need to do a pat down on anybody entering our stadium? Where the hell do y'all come up with this crap? What do you people think we are sneaking into DWS?

I've been patted down before I could enter at Oxford and Memphis. I gave them hell about it for a bit and told them they better not touch me without a warrant. This bullshit has gone too far. Treating citizens like criminals is crazy. But hey, we're now in the Socialist States of America, where the Elites are above the law and we the Plebes are content to trade our liberty for false security.

[RocketDawg]

Nothing more than some alcohol and the occasional knife. I was being completely sarcastic about pat downs.

I'm pretty sure they did a pat down at the Music City Bowl, and had metal detectors.

[missouridawg]

WTH would you need to do a pat down on anybody entering our stadium? Where the hell do y'all come up with this crap? What do you people think we are sneaking into DWS?

To be fair, Oktibbeha County did have two ISIS sympathizers arrested recently. I'm all for improving security, even if it means longer lines. Each individual just needs to plan appropriately.

[TheRef]

I'm pretty sure they did a pat down at the Music City Bowl, and had metal detectors.

I wouldn't doubt it. Most NFL stadiums have much more strict protocols than NCAA stadiums. Then again, I haven't been to an NFL stadium, so I might be talking out my arse

[sleepy dawg]

You don't think the TSA does anything to improve safety?

Every private test I've read about over the years, the TSA has failed to stop. There is 0 evidence they have ever stopped a terrorist attack. The TSA is a scare tactic at best.

Sure, they've confiscated firearms, but again, there that was being done before the TSA too.

The only thing this new rule does is prevent women from bringing in their purses. Almost anything you could've fit in a purse could easily be hidden somewhere else on you.

[TheRef]

Every private test I've read about over the years, the TSA has failed to stop. There is 0 evidence they have ever stopped a terrorist attack. The TSA is a scare tactic at best.

Sure, they've confiscated firearms, but again, there that was being done before the TSA too.

The only thing this new rule does is prevent women from bringing in their purses. Almost anything you could've fit in a purse could easily be hidden somewhere else on you.

Not really...it really does more than just prevent women from bringing in purses. If you really get down to it, everyone that brings in diaper bags, camera bags, students that bring in backpacks, satchels, fanny packs, etc, those are the ones who will be affected. If you're pissed off about the new rule, it could be worse. I know a couple of Big 10 schools who won't let you bring in any bag at all, including purses. We all know that alcohol is coming in on people, but unless you want us taking the time to pat down every single individual who comes through the gates, then suck it up and be happy with the current safety measures.

[sleepy dawg]

Not really...it really does more than just prevent women from bringing in purses. If you really get down to it, everyone that brings in diaper bags, camera bags, students that bring in backpacks, satchels, fanny packs, etc, those are the ones who will be affected. If you're pissed off about the new rule, it could be worse. I know a couple of Big 10 schools who won't let you bring in any bag at all, including purses. We all know that alcohol is coming in on people, but unless you want us taking the time to pat down every single individual who comes through the gates, then suck it up and be happy with the current safety measures.

I'm not pissed off about it. It doesn't affect me in the least. I was just responding to those who think this is going to cut down on all that terrorism that happens in our stadium.
I don't ever carry any bags in. However, I have smuggled in alcohol and cowbells numerous times without needing a non-clear bag to do so. Other items of similar size would be just as easy. They've always searched bags anyway, so anyone who was trying to sneak something in would've probably hid it outside their bag anyway. I just believe it's an unnecessary policy and do not it believe it will be effective. Anyone that truly wants to cause harm, will find a way.

[Dawg61]

It's called being proactive not reactive. Why wait for a bad incident to occur before implementing the clear bag policy? The rest of the country already has it in place. Let's stop being the last state to implement things for once.

[scottycameron]

Also we need to make sure everyone is changing their underwear daily. From now on underwear will be worn on the outside so it can be checked.

[Dawg61]

Also we need to make sure everyone is changing their underwear daily. From now on underwear will be worn on the outside so it can be checked.

That sucks for you since you're still wearing your great grandma's civil war bloomers

[sleepy dawg]

I've been patted down before I could enter at Oxford and Memphis. I gave them hell about it for a bit and told them they better not touch me without a warrant. This bullshit has gone too far. Treating citizens like criminals is crazy. But hey, we're now in the Socialist States of America, where the Elites are above the law and we the Plebes are content to trade our liberty for false security.

ding ding ding ding! This, all day long.

[TheRef]

FWIW, in talking to people about this, most people are okay with the new policy. Did a Twitter poll and out of over 300 votes, 47% said it was a necessary measure for safety, while 26% said they didn't care. Only 13% of those who responded said that it was stupid/get rid of it.

[sleepy dawg]

FWIW, in talking to people about this, most people are okay with the new policy. Did a Twitter poll and out of over 300 votes, 47% said it was a necessary measure for safety, while 26% said they didn't care. Only 13% of those who responded said that it was stupid/get rid of it.

Which group do you fall in ref? I am in both the "don't care" and the "stupid/get rid of it" groups. Ultimately, I don't care because I don't bring in bags. I think it's "stupid/get rid of it" because I really don't see it helping anything at all.

Can someone name a bad event in the past 20 years inside one of our stadiums that this policy would've prevented from happening? I get the idea of it being proactive, but what specific situation is it going to stop... And in those scenarios, is there not a similar path that person could take to get a similar result to get around the new policy? I just can't think of a scenario that this would stop if someone was serious about causing harm.

I'm not trying to rustle the feathers of anyone who is in support of it. It just seems like it should be simple to lay out clear scenarios this is going to stop if you are going to implement such a policy.

[scottycameron]

I could have told you nerds on Twitter would be all for it.