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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
I hope they get hammered. BUT, if they don't, can we all agree to stop talking about this BS forever?
An actual miss state game would do wonders as far as slowing down all this talk. There's really nothing to talk about much right now... Unless you guys wanna talk braves' baseball bc I'm all in haha
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
An actual miss state game would do wonders as far as slowing down all this talk. There's really nothing to talk about much right now... Unless you guys wanna talk braves' baseball bc I'm all in haha
Yeah, but it's a year round topic. Ole Miss clearly cheats. But if they don't get hammered, we need to either step up our game or just quit complaining about it. The NCAA really needs to send a strong message.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Yeah, but it's a year round topic. Ole Miss clearly cheats. But if they don't get hammered, we need to either step up our game or just quit complaining about it. The NCAA really needs to send a strong message.
There is no doubt that if they don't get hammered the rest of the SEC is going to go Wild West afterwards. This isn't an MSU complaint with them. Everyone is bitching about it and everyone is in wait and see mode to decide what to do next.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Yeah, but it's a year round topic. Ole Miss clearly cheats. But if they don't get hammered, we need to either step up our game or just quit complaining about it. The NCAA really needs to send a strong message.
I think reasonable minds can agree with this
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Why did he cuss Robert Elliot's mom if he had such high character and integrity? Ask the Rebs that question.
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If ole miss doesn't get hammered by the NCAA, from now on we better:
1. Provide hotel rooms for all players and recruits families
2. Provide travel and/or reimburse any travel expenses for the entire family of recruits/players
3. Have dinners and events hosted at coaches' homes with all the big time boosters in attendance
4. Provide cost of living allowances not just players, but for momma, daddy, aunts, uncles or any other influential family members
Any more?
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Originally Posted by
MaroonState
Why did he cuss Robert Elliot's mom if he had such high character and integrity? Ask the Rebs that question.
Was she the one he got in a altercation with after one game a year or two ago? If not, I haven't heard about the Elliot Mom incident.
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Originally Posted by
MadDawg
If ole miss doesn't get hammered by the NCAA, from now on we better:
1. Provide hotel rooms for all players and recruits families
2. Provide travel and/or reimburse any travel expenses for the entire family of recruits/players
3. Have dinners and events hosted at coaches' homes with all the big time boosters in attendance
4. Provide cost of living allowances not just players, but for momma, daddy, aunts, uncles or any other influential family members
Any more?
We better do a hell of a lot more than that, and do it in cash.
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Originally Posted by
MadDawg
If ole miss doesn't get hammered by the NCAA, from now on we better:
1. Provide hotel rooms for all players and recruits families
2. Provide travel and/or reimburse any travel expenses for the entire family of recruits/players
3. Have dinners and events hosted at coaches' homes with all the big time boosters in attendance
4. Provide cost of living allowances not just players, but for momma, daddy, aunts, uncles or any other influential family members
Any more?
Yeah, a lot more. Just throw the rule book in the trash can b/c it would prove that the NCAA has no ability to enforce the rules. Like the other poster said, Wild West.
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Originally Posted by
RocketDawg
Was she the one he got in a altercation with after one game a year or two ago? If not, I haven't heard about the Elliot Mom incident.
Nope, when he was with Eddie O. He cussed out Elliot's mom and one of our coaches at Elliot's house.
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Originally Posted by
RocketDawg
Was she the one he got in a altercation with after one game a year or two ago? If not, I haven't heard about the Elliot Mom incident.
Quick google search regarding Freeze and Mcknight, brought up this interesting read.... It shows a different side of Mr. Freeze and gives light to whether he is the best recruiter of all time.... If 800 calls to a high school kid over 3 days and blowing up the recruit's 11 year old brother's phone means you're the best, then yes Freezus must be the best....
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ory?id=3227211
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
We better do a hell of a lot more than that, and do it in cash.
Seriously. I doubt any of the things the NCAA has actually identified, other than introducing the players to boosters and the academic improprieties, had any significant impact on their recruiting.
If UM doesn't get hammered, we are going to have to decide whether we are committed enough to compete in big boy football. I hope we are, but I'm not out handing out cash, so I can't really complain about anybody else's commitment.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Yeah, but it's a year round topic. Ole Miss clearly cheats. But if they don't get hammered, we need to either step up our game or just quit complaining about it. The NCAA really needs to send a strong message.
Define hammered.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
Define hammered.
See USC. 2 year bowl ban. 30 scholarships over 3 years. I would want to see every game that Tunsil played in be forfeited. And all current players be given the option to transfer without sitting out a year.
That's enough to keep up the rhetoric. Much less than that and it's a waste of time to discuss or even think about on a message board.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
See USC. 2 year bowl ban. 30 scholarships over 3 years. I would want to see every game that Tunsil played in be forfeited. And all current players be given the option to transfer without sitting out a year.
That's enough to keep up the rhetoric. Much less than that and it's a waste of time to discuss or even think about on a message board.
I think 20 schollies and a bowl ban is getting hammered this day in age
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
See USC. 2 year bowl ban. 30 scholarships over 3 years. I would want to see every game that Tunsil played in be forfeited. And all current players be given the option to transfer without sitting out a year.
That's enough to keep up the rhetoric. Much less than that and it's a waste of time to discuss or even think about on a message board.
I think this makes a ton of sense as well, but would add showcauses for Freeze, Kiffin, Nix, etc. Basically, I don't believe the NCAA should be out to destroy Ole Miss' football program or university, but I think the fair thing to do is to set them back to where they were before Freeze got there. No more, no less. If Freeze's program was built through illegal benefits, then the people involved should be terminated & the program reset to where it was before he got there.
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Originally Posted by
MadDawg
If ole miss doesn't get hammered by the NCAA, from now on we better:
1. Provide hotel rooms for all players and recruits families
2. Provide travel and/or reimburse any travel expenses for the entire family of recruits/players
3. Have dinners and events hosted at coaches' homes with all the big time boosters in attendance
4. Provide cost of living allowances not just players, but for momma, daddy, aunts, uncles or any other influential family members
Any more?
This is the recipe.
Avoid handing out large amounts of money. Provide for players and their families on a monthly basis. The Network had a choice, give one lump sum, or portion it over 4 years. They both have pros and cons.
If you give one lump sum, there is only one transaction to be traced, but that transaction could be a program destroyer. They decided against this. Instead, the decided to give a bunch of small amounts over a long period of time. It creates a lot more transactions, but each is small enough to maybe be written off as a part of the "Opportunity Fund". The Opportunity Fund "narrative" was their fire escape plan, however, just because you follow the fire escape plan, doesn't mean you won't get burned.
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Originally Posted by
Gutter Cobreh
Quick google search regarding Freeze and Mcknight, brought up this interesting read.... It shows a different side of Mr. Freeze and gives light to whether he is the best recruiter of all time.... If 800 calls to a high school kid over 3 days and blowing up the recruit's 11 year old brother's phone means you're the best, then yes Freezus must be the best....
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ory?id=3227211
800 CALLS?!?! How in the hell do you do that?!?! Bona-fide stalkers don't even do that! Oh my God you have to have problems to call someone that much, no matter what's it's about - even if you're trying to warn others of a nuclear fallout.
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Originally Posted by
MadDawg
If ole miss doesn't get hammered by the NCAA, from now on we better:
1. Provide hotel rooms for all players and recruits families
2. Provide travel and/or reimburse any travel expenses for the entire family of recruits/players
3. Have dinners and events hosted at coaches' homes with all the big time boosters in attendance
4. Provide cost of living allowances not just players, but for momma, daddy, aunts, uncles or any other influential family members
Any more?
Build a hotel on campus that can be used during FB season for recruits & their fam's to stay in.
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All of these grand ideas start with axing Bracky Brett.
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