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    We are going to win a baseball national championship over the next 2 years.....

    2017 lineup could literally be already set:

    1) Mangum, CF
    2) Kruger, DH/C/LF
    3) Rooker, RF
    4) Gordon - 1B
    5) Marrero - C/DH
    6) Gridley - 2B
    7) Alexander - SS
    8) Stovall - 3B
    9) Brown - LF/DH

    That is without adding a single JUCO or freshman. If they beat someone out, all the better. Mangum/Kruger/Rooker might be the best 123 in the country, they are going to hurt you every single time out. We will only lose 3 guys off that lineup going into 2018, 4 if Gridley makes a huge jump and goes pro, I guess Gordon is a risk there too. But I figure I can count on at least 2 JUCOs to pan out from 2 recrootin classes, plus some freshmen for power.

    I don't think we even need to discuss pitching. We have the talent on campus AT THIS MOMENT to do this. That's why getting a coach like Henderson is going to prove to be so important.

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    Yes and I can't tell you how interested I am to see how Riley, Skelton and Will Brooks add, especially with all the talent there......Noah Hughes will come back stronger than ever after TJ - I hope.

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    I sure ass hell hope your right!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taog Redloh View Post
    2017 lineup could literally be already set:

    1) Mangum, CF
    2) Kruger, DH/C/LF
    3) Rooker, RF
    4) Gordon - 1B
    5) Marrero - C/DH
    6) Gridley - 2B
    7) Alexander - SS
    8) Stovall - 3B
    9) Brown - LF/DH

    That is without adding a single JUCO or freshman. If they beat someone out, all the better. Mangum/Kruger/Rooker might be the best 123 in the country, they are going to hurt you every single time out. We will only lose 3 guys off that lineup going into 2018, 4 if Gridley makes a huge jump and goes pro, I guess Gordon is a risk there too. But I figure I can count on at least 2 JUCOs to pan out from 2 recrootin classes, plus some freshmen for power.

    I don't think we even need to discuss pitching. We have the talent on campus AT THIS MOMENT to do this. That's why getting a coach like Henderson is going to prove to be so important.
    I just don't see a lot of pop in that lineup. Losing a ton of production from Lowe, Collins, Robson, and Humphreys. That's a lot of slugging.

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    Even the most talented team can't say that. Odds are we don't win the championship over the next two years.

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    We had the talent to do it this year...so talent alone won't do it. Gotta get hot and catch some breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroons View Post
    I just don't see a lot of pop in that lineup. Losing a ton of production from Lowe, Collins, Robson, and Humphreys. That's a lot of slugging.
    My concern as well. Lowe, Collins, and Humphreys provided a lot of SLG. We can hope that Cole Gordon helps fill that gap, but I still think we need one more (maybe even 2) power bat to go with Kruger, Rooker, and Gordon. If we get that out of one or two of the freshmans, then we should be legit again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missouridawg View Post
    My concern as well. Lowe, Collins, and Humphreys provided a lot of SLG. We can hope that Cole Gordon helps fill that gap, but I still think we need one more (maybe even 2) power bat to go with Kruger, Rooker, and Gordon. If we get that out of one or two of the freshmans, then we should be legit again.
    Funny because three months ago Collins got bad mouth horribly here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missouridawg View Post
    My concern as well. Lowe, Collins, and Humphreys provided a lot of SLG. We can hope that Cole Gordon helps fill that gap, but I still think we need one more (maybe even 2) power bat to go with Kruger, Rooker, and Gordon. If we get that out of one or two of the freshmans, then we should be legit again.
    Goldwater and Bragg could help there too. Luke Alexander could potentially provide some pop also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    Funny because three months ago Collins got bad mouth horribly here.
    I certainly called him Bootsy Collins in multiple text messages this past season.... But his bat was very solid. A little streaky and certainly, not very clutch the last weekend, but overall very productive for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Goldwater and Bragg could help there too. Luke Alexander could potentially provide some pop also.
    I sure hope so. We need to add another Mangum to the lineup too. A freshman who adjust very quickly to the college game.

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    I think we could see Rooker at first. That is his pro position. Gordon reminds me of Jeff Flagg. Puts on a bp show but just strikes out way to much for my liking. I'm gonna guess

    Cf mangum
    ss gridley
    Dh/C kruger
    1b/rf Rooker
    Rf/1b Goldwater
    C marrero
    Lf vansau
    2b smith my surprise player
    3b alexander

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroons View Post
    I just don't see a lot of pop in that lineup. Losing a ton of production from Lowe, Collins, Robson, and Humphreys. That's a lot of slugging.
    Guess I just disagree. People will find out that Stovall might be one of the best players we got. Alexander can drop bombs too. Gridley is the type of upperclassman we need, I see him being the guy that carries us in an Omaha setting. Just wait.

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    Will have less HR's with this lineup, which means more runs will have to be manufactured...Cohen style. We will be really good, though I really don't see a NC, but anything can happen, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Goldwater and Bragg could help there too. Luke Alexander could potentially provide some pop also.
    Goldwater is having a good summer. Bragg has had a horrible summer. We'll see if Bragg can improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steakonastick View Post
    I think we could see Rooker at first. That is his pro position. Gordon reminds me of Jeff Flagg. Puts on a bp show but just strikes out way to much for my liking. I'm gonna guess

    Cf mangum
    ss gridley
    Dh/C kruger
    1b/rf Rooker
    Rf/1b Goldwater
    C marrero
    Lf vansau
    2b smith my surprise player
    3b alexander
    I think we're probably going to see Goldwater at first base and keep Rooker in the OF. Gordon will certainly be in the mix at first though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taog Redloh View Post
    Guess I just disagree. People will find out that Stovall might be one of the best players we got. Alexander can drop bombs too. Gridley is the type of upperclassman we need, I see him being the guy that carries us in an Omaha setting. Just wait.
    LA and Reed Smith will get a look at third base before Stovall does. Stovall is good- but his best position is second base. I know you're going to disagree and there's nothing I can say to change your mind. Stovall only ends up at third if those two and Bragg can't take the job though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steakonastick View Post
    I think we could see Rooker at first. That is his pro position. Gordon reminds me of Jeff Flagg. Puts on a bp show but just strikes out way to much for my liking. I'm gonna guess

    Cf mangum
    ss gridley
    Dh/C kruger
    1b/rf Rooker
    Rf/1b Goldwater
    C marrero
    Lf vansau
    2b smith my surprise player
    3b alexander
    I think your lineup is pretty close to being correct. I would say Stovall would be the second baseman over Reed Smith though.
    Last edited by Todd4State; 06-26-2016 at 04:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Will have less HR's with this lineup, which means more runs will have to be manufactured...Cohen style. We will be really good, though I really don't see a NC, but anything can happen, I guess.
    Probably. It depends on how much power the JUCO's give us. I wouldn't be surprised if Goldwater matches Lowe's HR total. Vansau might be able to replace Humphreys HR total. I think Rooker will hit more. Collins 10 will be hard to replace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Will have less HR's with this lineup, which means more runs will have to be manufactured...Cohen style. We will be really good, though I really don't see a NC, but anything can happen, I guess.
    It's a lineup better then Arizona's and they are playing for the national championship. You don't need that much pop. You just need a great defensive team, great pitching, and enough at the plate to get it done. Rooker and Kruger are two big bats that will anchor that lineup. Down the stretch we got nothing from Humphreys or Lowe. As long as we will have improved defensively in the infield and can hit enough we could actually improve overall. I know we will have plenty of pitching to get it done and our pitching will be the best Cohen has ever had here.

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