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    Sick to my stomach with this performance today

    We mentally check out when the series is clinched- 0-4 in games with a sweep on the line in league play. I could take us just getting beat, but our heads aren't even at the ball park. That's on the coaches for allowing it to happen time and time again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by messageboardsuperhero View Post
    We mentally check out when the series is clinched- 0-4 in games with a sweep on the line in league play. I could take us just getting beat, but our heads aren't even at the ball park. That's on the coaches for allowing it to happen time and time again.
    I don't really expect a sweep at LSU or at Vandy, although it would be nice. But I damn sure expect to sweep UGA and Northern Miss at The Dude when we have a chance. Those two non-sweeps are haunting us right now. But you're right, we just completely check out when we wrap up the series. That's on Cohen. Coaching isn't nearly as much about Xs & Os as it is about motivating. We fail at motivating once we've clinched a series.
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    It's not about us winning or losing the game... It's about us not even being mentally locked in. It's inexcusable for that to happen as much as it has this year.

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    We will never sweep Lsu again. This was our chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by messageboardsuperhero View Post
    We mentally check out when the series is clinched- 0-4 in games with a sweep on the line in league play. I could take us just getting beat, but our heads aren't even at the ball park. That's on the coaches for allowing it to happen time and time again.
    Well in 3 of those 4 we have allowed OVER 10 runs. Not much chance to win when your Sunday pitching is THAT bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Well in 3 of those 4 we have allowed OVER 10 runs. Not much chance to win when your Sunday pitching is THAT bad.
    When a Sunday win was required to win a series, we got it done only giving up 1 run to Florida. I think it's just an approach on sweep day that's the problem

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    There is nothing physical about an error. It is between the ears. And that is how we play on Sunday's after taking two. On the mound and in the field.

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    I think it's just bad pitching on Sundays. I doubt guys that haven't thrown all weekend are mentally checked out. In fact, my guess is that we press on Sundays, instead of just slowing the game down.

    I know we blame coaches for everything, but you know

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    Errors and mental mistakes hurt us every Sunday it seems. I didn't expect to sweep LSU going in, but when you have 15 hits, you should win today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percho View Post
    There is nothing physical about an error.
    Nothing?

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    Momentum is only as good as your next days starting pitcher...and jonny wholestaff ain't been to good for us.

    Because of this defensive mistakes are magnified. If we catch the infield pop in the 4th we win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percho View Post
    There is nothing physical about an error. It is between the ears. And that is how we play on Sunday's after taking two. On the mound and in the field.
    Completely incorrect.. While there are mental errors, physicalaty plays a huge role in most...

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    Quote Originally Posted by messageboardsuperhero View Post
    We mentally check out when the series is clinched- 0-4 in games with a sweep on the line in league play. I could take us just getting beat, but our heads aren't even at the ball park. That's on the coaches for allowing it to happen time and time again.
    I couldn't disagree with you more. I was at the game and we never gave up and never stopped fighting.

    At the plate we battled all damn day. I talked with several of the players before the game and if you don't think they wanted to go into Alex Box and sweep you have lost your damn mind.

    In the field, are weaknesses are exposed again. Stovall just isn't ready to start yet. He is getting some great experience but again, we make a huge error that kills us then can't field a fly ball in the infield. Just like Friday night when Stovall and Gridley couldn't turn two key double plays, the error at 2nd hurt badly. Our middle infield is not good. I really like Gridley but he is playing out of position and should be at 2nd. Stovall will be a hell of a player for us, he is just really young and not ready. Collins is also a huge liability. If you watched all three games you saw LSU's 3rd baseman, time and time again, rob us of the screaming grounder down the 3rd base line. If you watched all 3 games you watched Collins miss that ball over and over again. I think he has done well to transition from C to 3rd but he is not a great 3rd baseman. Our infield is not good. We need to be making plays on Sunday to help our pitchers and playing above our talent level and we just are not.

    Our pitching staff is exactly what it is. Pilk was great for a few innings but we need him to give us 5-7. That isn't what bothers me. What bothers me is these guys we trot out there, that have to be begging for a shot, come in and cannot throw strikes. THAT is the part that is between the head.

    But to say we checked out or our heads were not in it is idiotic and you have no clue what the hell you are talking about.

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    Houston wants to start. He does better when he starts. Make him the Sunday starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weblow View Post
    I couldn't disagree with you more. I was at the game and we never gave up and never stopped fighting.

    At the plate we battled all damn day. I talked with several of the players before the game and if you don't think they wanted to go into Alex Box and sweep you have lost your damn mind.

    In the field, are weaknesses are exposed again. Stovall just isn't ready to start yet. He is getting some great experience but again, we make a huge error that kills us then can't field a fly ball in the infield. Just like Friday night when Stovall and Gridley couldn't turn two key double plays, the error at 2nd hurt badly. Our middle infield is not good. I really like Gridley but he is playing out of position and should be at 2nd. Stovall will be a hell of a player for us, he is just really young and not ready. Collins is also a huge liability. If you watched all three games you saw LSU's 3rd baseman, time and time again, rob us of the screaming grounder down the 3rd base line. If you watched all 3 games you watched Collins miss that ball over and over again. I think he has done well to transition from C to 3rd but he is not a great 3rd baseman. Our infield is not good. We need to be making plays on Sunday to help our pitchers and playing above our talent level and we just are not.

    Our pitching staff is exactly what it is. Pilk was great for a few innings but we need him to give us 5-7. That isn't what bothers me. What bothers me is these guys we trot out there, that have to be begging for a shot, come in and cannot throw strikes. THAT is the part that is between the head.

    But to say we checked out or our heads were not in it is idiotic and you have no clue what the hell you are talking about.
    My hope is that Alexander comes back soon. Play him at short and Gridley at 2b. Hopefully Alexander's range at SS will help out Collins some. When Robson returns, play him in center and mangum in rf... I really think these moves are gonna make us a better defensive team

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    My hope is that Alexander comes back soon. Play him at short and Gridley at 2b. Hopefully Alexander's range at SS will help out Collins some. When Robson returns, play him in center and mangum in rf... I really think these moves are gonna make us a better defensive team
    Absolutely agree. Alexander didn't have the brace on his wrist in the dugout so hopefully that means he is close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    Houston wants to start. He does better when he starts. Make him the Sunday starter.
    Well you can't go out there and get shelled every outing and then say "I want to start". He hasn't earned a start. That's like me going to my boss and telling him "I know I haven't hit quota in 6 months, but I want to be promoted to Director of Sales."

    It makes no sense. Not saying Houston might not be better as a starter...but surely we can all see why Cohen wouldn't have the confidence to trot him out there right now, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    My hope is that Alexander comes back soon. Play him at short and Gridley at 2b. Hopefully Alexander's range at SS will help out Collins some. When Robson returns, play him in center and mangum in rf... I really think these moves are gonna make us a better defensive team
    I wish we could move Hump to 3B when Robson returns, and have the following...

    LF Rooker
    CF Robson
    RF Mangum
    3B Hump
    SS Alexander
    2B Gridley
    1B Lowe
    C Marrero
    DH Kruger

    Pinch hitters:
    RH Collins
    LH Cody Brown

    But that will never happen, I know. At least with Alexander back, maybe we can bring in Stovall to play 3B as a defensive sub late in games or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    Houston wants to start. He does better when he starts. Make him the Sunday starter.
    I want to be the ace for Cubs...reckon they'll just "make" me the ace?

    Gotta earn opportunities, and all he's earned is a pat on the back for how he's pitched in ONE game this year. Gimme a break!

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