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    Redmond

    Saw where Calhoun may be done for season ankle I believe.. . And heard Will ran with the 1's yesterday. Is he due back for LSU weekend. ??

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    No. If the bowl game counts as one of the 18, he will first be eligible for Bowling Green. If not, it'll be Kentucky.

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    Oh so last year's games counted toward his suspension?

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    It was 18 games total, and yes, last year's games count, but that means his redshirt didn't. So he is a sophomore this year, with 2.5 years to play 2.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    It was 18 games total, and yes, last year's games count, but that means his redshirt didn't. So he is a sophomore this year, with 2.5 years to play 2.5.
    This just makes me so effing mad.

    /Cue the Bracky Hate

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    I just don't know how much Bracky could have done about it; once the NCAA tells you what they want to do, there's not usually a whole lot of reason to fight it.

    But whoever screwed it up did so when they burned last year for him. What they should have done was suspend him the first 6 games this year but let his redshirt year stand so that he would still be a freshman this year.

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    What happened to Calhoun?

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    it's either LSU or BG from what I was told. I don't think they even know yet. the suspension was for last year and six "weeks" this year (remember the suspension isn't just games, it's traveling with the team, etc...). It may include the bye week, but I don't look for the NCAA or Bracky to be reasonable at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I just don't know how much Bracky could have done about it; once the NCAA tells you what they want to do, there's not usually a whole lot of reason to fight it.

    But whoever screwed it up did so when they burned last year for him. What they should have done was suspend him the first 6 games this year but let his redshirt year stand so that he would still be a freshman this year.
    Bracky totally screwed the pooch. They sent the kid into a meeting with investigators with no preparation. He was totally blindsided, or so the story goes. Didn't have any sort of representation present.

    NCAA still might have handed down sanctions, but at least we wouldn't have made it so easy for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    it's either LSU or BG from what I was told. I don't think they even know yet. the suspension was for last year and six "weeks" this year (remember the suspension isn't just games, it's traveling with the team, etc...). It may include the bye week, but I don't look for the NCAA or Bracky to be reasonable at this point.
    Everybody else in the SEC would coun't the bye week. We will not.

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    I went back and looked, and it was reported at the time that he would miss the first 5 games of this year, so he'll be back for BG.

    It has nothing to do with weeks, it's games.

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    If they said weeks and we don't count the open week, we are giant pussies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckDOG View Post
    If they said weeks and we don't count the open week, we are giant pussies.
    They didn't, Hack is wrong.

    The NCAA has never suspended someone for a certain number of weeks; it is always games.

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    I still don't understand how the 1st year was lost. I hope we appeal that and count it as a redshirt.

    Similar or worse offenses were punished much, much less than 18 games. Frankly, I can't think of any player anywhere that got Redmond level punishment despite other schools violations being a lot more serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlabLoser View Post
    I still don't understand how the 1st year was lost. I hope we appeal that and count it as a redshirt.

    Similar or worse offenses were punished much, much less than 18 games. Frankly, I can't think of any player anywhere that got Redmond level punishment despite other schools violations being a lot more serious.
    There wont be any appeal- WE- Mississippi State- offered that to the NCAA and they accepted it. The NCAA didnt suspend Redmond- WE DID THAT.

    Nothing to appeal when you do it to yourself
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJDAWG85 View Post
    What happened to Calhoun?
    This.... I haven't heard anything here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    There wont be any appeal- WE- Mississippi State- offered that to the NCAA and they accepted it. The NCAA didnt suspend Redmond- WE DID THAT.

    Nothing to appeal when you do it to yourself
    Are you sure about that? The way I understood it was that we offered the 5 games, and then he got the additional year because he initially lied to the NCAA investigators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwolf View Post
    Are you sure about that? The way I understood it was that we offered the 5 games, and then he got the additional year because he initially lied to the NCAA investigators.
    I'm not 100% no- but my understanding was that we offered up the 18 games and the NCAA accepted it
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    Terrell Pryor and the other 5-6 Ohio St players got 6 games -- and that was a lack of institutional control situation...

    ETA: I always find it funny when people question/doubt Hack on something like this...
    Last edited by engie; 09-18-2013 at 11:00 AM.

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    I'm not questioning his knowledge of the situation (that would be insane), but the suspension was for games, not weeks.

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