Looks like the talking points have changed...again

[oldjoedawg]

When did Steve suggest tv and bowl bans?

Steve has repeatedly stated that he has not suggested any 'bans' of any kind simply because there is no way to know what punishments will be levied. Others have put those "words in his mouth" so that when/if those do not happen, they can attack him for being wrong.... He has steadfastly refused to make any guesses on what punishments may occur. He has suggested that ULL case may give some indication of what is to come.

[Bully13]

I'm guessing they all know all of their crimes and punishment will eventually be public information. I guess they think the more they can delay, the less of an impact all of their initial lies will be. Gotta be something behind these intentional delays. Prolonging the inevitable is kinda puzzling.

[confucius say]

Steve has repeatedly stated that he has not suggested any 'bans' of any kind simply because there is no way to know what punishments will be levied. Others have put those "words in his mouth" so that when/if those do not happen, they can attack him for being wrong.... He has steadfastly refused to make any guesses on what punishments may occur. He has suggested that ULL case may give some indication of what is to come.

Exactly. Hyperbole kills credibility.

[JDog13]

Aaaaaaand just like that, Johnson crawfished. Reworded his post. Hey David, click an ad, breh.

[Tbonewannabe]

When did Steve suggest tv and bowl bans?

The NCAA will not penalize the other teams with a TV ban. I would think a bowl ban is likely if it is close to USCw penalties.

[M.Fillmore]

Wait- they swore to the heavens above that Rosey and I were lying about recruits still being interviewed??? How can this be???

No wonder we have so many OM people reading this site- they want to find out what the **** is really going on

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Beaver meet tree.

[blacklistedbully]

Steve has repeatedly stated that he has not suggested any 'bans' of any kind simply because there is no way to know what punishments will be levied. Others have put those "words in his mouth" so that when/if those do not happen, they can attack him for being wrong.... He has steadfastly refused to make any guesses on what punishments may occur. He has suggested that ULL case may give some indication of what is to come.

This is the Ole Miss way. It's cultural. They do the same thing to any MSU fan posting on any other board. I have seen them quote me on other boards where the OP has deliberately taken my words out-of-context, or flat out lied about what I said so they can ridicule or counter an argument I never actually made.

They also love to do this in an attempt to discredit us with posters from other schools , so that when we pass on info we know about, the other posters will think it's all BS.

Time & again I tear them up on MB's where I use facts & reason, only to see them never counter the actual facts or argument, but rather go for a strategy of insults and ridicule, or going for the tried-&-true, "straw-man argument".

From my experience, 99% of Ole Miss posters do this, and they do it every time. If you ever find an Ole Miss fan who will actually engage you in an intelligent, reasoned debate, you have found the proverbial needle-in-the-haystack.

[Drugs Delaney]

I am getting nothing by clicking thumbnail. Who wrote this?

[engie]

It was over weeks ago. Then it started again.

If someone has time to scour the archives -- there are quotes from Bjork saying it is over from the very first story on the inquiry in Philadelphia, which I believe was the first info of any kind pertaining to the investigation. He's been saying it is over for at least 2 possibly 3 years

[Coach34]

How any OM fan could believe anything said by Yancy, Chuck, or Johnson at this point is mystifying....well, Bdork too for that matter

[Mjoelner34]

If someone has time to scour the archives -- there are quotes from Bjork saying it is over from the very first story on the inquiry in Philadelphia, which I believe was the first info of any kind pertaining to the investigation. He's been saying it is over for at least 2 possibly 3 years

I just copied this from a Yahoo article. The only thing I altered or deleted was the number of years the story states that Freeze has been at UNM. Can you guess when this story was written? Scroll down past the story to see the answer.

Multiple sources told Yahoo Sports the Mississippi football and women’s basketball programs are subjects of the investigation. One source with knowledge of the probe said the bulk of the potential violations relate to women’s basketball. The source said the current football staff of head coach Hugh Freeze is not believed to be implicated in any major violations, and that much of the football inquiry dates back to actions by a previous Ole Miss staff. Freeze is in his XXX year at the school. The source said there have been no new allegations, all NCAA interviews have completed and the school is waiting for the NCAA Department of Enforcement's next step.




































By Pat Forde
October 2, 2014 4:04 AM
Yahoo Sports

Its funny how a quote from a 'source' in a story dated October 2, 2014 is pretty much identical to the line Bjork threw out this time isn't it.

[BossDawg]

Holy crap. I can't believe that article is from nearly 2 years ago. I was reading and thinking, "that has to be from this year." That is the same recycled garbage we were fed earlier this year.

[MSUDawg99]

nm

[Bully13]

Holy shit. Talk about cut and paste.

[sandwolf]

Steve isn't getting info from Freeze and Bjork, so he is getting the real story. Freeze and Bjork want his source so they can shut this shit down. The fact that their media is too damn stupid to figure out that they are being used a puppets is amazing. If someone kept telling me things that were proven to be untrue and hurt my credibility, I would be furious no matter how much I loved that school. They are like lap dogs that eat up whatever the admin tells them no matter how many times they crawfish on what they said before. It's comical to see how damn stupid that group of media members are being made to look over all of this.

Yea, that is what I can't wrap my head around......those guys seem to have no problem whatsoever with having their credibility destroyed by their 'sources.' I can understand initially putting out information as absolute fact because you felt like you were getting the inside scoop from a well placed and reliable source.....but I can't understand why anyone would continue to do that after the information has continually turned out to be absolute bullshit. I would have been furious when it came out that the NOA contained 13 football allegations after I had been telling anyone that would listen that there were only 3-4 football allegations while Steve has been telling everyone that there would be a dozen or more......but I also try not to make a habit of allowing people make me look completely ridiculous in front of a large audience, whereas those guys clearly aren't worried about that.

[Dawgowar]

I wonder if they are losing it about now? You know, the NCAA not accepting their proposed wrist-slaps as penalties.

"OK, OK, We'll cut 2 scholarships a year and get rid of free extra pudding night in the dining hall."

"Show Cause. LOIC"

"2 Scholarships, no extra pudding, and we'll do a PSA about responsible tailgating?"

Just wonder how nervous they are really getting behind closed doors. Bjork is running very quiet since the denials.

[blacklistedbully]

Yea, that is what I can't wrap my head around......those guys seem to have no problem whatsoever with having their credibility destroyed by their 'sources.' I can understand initially putting out information as absolute fact because you felt like you were getting the inside scoop from a well placed and reliable source.....but I can't understand why anyone would continue to do that after the information has continually turned out to be absolute bullshit. I would have been furious when it came out that the NOA contained 13 football allegations after I had been telling anyone that would listen that there were only 3-4 football allegations while Steve has been telling everyone that there would be a dozen or more......but I also try not to make a habit of allowing people make me look completely ridiculous in front of a large audience, whereas those guys clearly aren't worried about that.

You forget just how delusional those folks are. They want so badly to believe, they can convince themselves of just about anything, despite what their own eyes or ears tell them. More than any fanbase in existence, they can block out reality and continue to live in a fantasy world, where things that are inconvenient truths are simply pushed right out of their minds.

[Perpetual Underachiever]

Within the past week I was told the following is guaranteed:

-- 2 year bowl ban
-- 30 scholarships over 3 years

This is coming from someone who is very connected and has been 100% correct throughput the entire process. So they can spin it all they want, manipulate the media, and continue to preach "nothing to see here", but the above is a done deal...and hopefully there will be more.

[Statefan]

Within the past week I was told the following is guaranteed:

-- 2 year bowl ban
-- 30 scholarships over 3 years

This is coming from someone who is very connected and has been 100% correct throughput the entire process. So they can spin it all they want, manipulate the media, and continue to preach "nothing to see here", but the above is a done deal...and hopefully there will be more.

[blacklistedbully]

Within the past week I was told the following is guaranteed:

-- 2 year bowl ban
-- 30 scholarships over 3 years

This is coming from someone who is very connected and has been 100% correct throughput the entire process. So they can spin it all they want, manipulate the media, and continue to preach "nothing to see here", but the above is a done deal...and hopefully there will be more.

As much as I would love to believe this, I don't think anybody yet knows. Only the NCAA can make that call, and they have to complete their process before they can determine the punishment.

Any talk of sanctions at this stage is purely speculation, and speculating what the NCAA is going to do is iffy at best, given how inconsistent they have been lately.