Can we use some logic for a second?

[Dawgtini]

Here's some logic for everyone. How many of you on this board would want to stick around a company with an arrogant boss who obviously plays favorites to others who are undeniably underperforming? You see it year in and year out, yet nothing changes. Something opens up, be it a lateral move, and you take it because you are sick and tired of seeing someone get rewarded for performing less than you have and you are getting passed over for promotions.

Some of you need to take the maroon glasses off and look at these situations as real world job environments. If any damn one of you enjoy or would enjoy the boss playing favorites to under performers, then you are and always be just a passive sheep who will get walked on throughout life.

Big assumption by you that this is what is happening. Also, explain to me why multiple people would RETURN to this job environment and stay multiple years if they left it (took anything to get away from it) because they couldn't take seeing that behavior "year in and year out". I think you need to try on some maroon glasses once and a while.

Look, I understand that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. What is sad is that some here take the words of an internet poster and run with the dialog that "he sucks" "everyone hates him" "he's a dang yankee" etc. This is big boy football and you can bet that the coaches we hire and promote know it and know what is at stake for them here and for their futures in the profession. Believe it or not, Mullen is very well respected in coaching circles throughout the nation.

[DancingRabbit]

Big assumption by you that this is what is happening. Also, explain to me why multiple people would RETURN to this job environment and stay multiple years if they left it (took anything to get away from it) because they couldn't take seeing that behavior "year in and year out". I think you need to try on some maroon glasses once and a while.

Look, I understand that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. What is sad is that some here take the words of an internet poster and run with the dialog that "he sucks" "everyone hates him" "he's a dang yankee" etc. This is big boy football and you can bet that the coaches we hire and promote know it and know what is at stake for them here and for their futures in the profession. Believe it or not, Mullen is very well respected in coaching circles throughout the nation.

Last month Dan was elected to the Board of Trustees of the American Football Coaches Association.

[gravedigger]

Here's some logic for everyone. How many of you on this board would want to stick around a company with an arrogant boss who obviously plays favorites to others who are undeniably underperforming? You see it year in and year out, yet nothing changes. Something opens up, be it a lateral move, and you take it because you are sick and tired of seeing someone get rewarded for performing less than you have and you are getting passed over for promotions.

Some of you need to take the maroon glasses off and look at these situations as real world job environments. If any damn one of you enjoy or would enjoy the boss playing favorites to under performers, then you are and always be just a passive sheep who will get walked on throughout life.

Your accusation of playing favorites is based on what? What we all think he should do? Its evident he can be abrasive and he isnt one to be seen in starkville except for the schools business, but that isnt evidence. Hevesy being distant isnt evidence either. Gonzales and Knox are very congenial.

You just seem to have come to a great deal of conclusions based on message board hysterics.

[Liverpooldawg]

I always try to look for what goes to the right of the equal sign. There are some things being said about Mullen that just don't add up with what I see. I keep hearing Mullen is a lazy recruiter, yet he finds talent under rocks that other Coaches seem to miss, that to me says just the opposite. That to me would be the sign of somebody that's working his butt off to find talent. We keep hearing Mullen is a Yankee a**hole and that so many people can't stand him, yet all his players and former players appear to love him. Just watch the way they interact with him. You don't see players interact with Freeze or even Saban the way they act with Mullen. Just watch the end of the Arkansas game and the locker room afterwards(and thats just one example). There's some things being said about Mullen that just aren't adding up to what I see.

EXACTLY

[Liverpooldawg]

It's no coincidence this crap is heating up again right now.

[MabenMaroon]

It's no coincidence this crap is heating up again right now.

The board is getting warmed up for baseball season**

[Goldendawg]

Jackie took us to Atlanta once and had the lead for our 2nd potential SEC title midway thru the 4th quarter. Later the wheels fell off and we all know outsiders helped with the fall. Dan had us #1 in the nation for five weeks. It felt very surreal for me while it was happening, but our family made potential plans to the national championship playoffs. Yeah, it's been tough the way we have closed against Alabama and UM the last two years. I'm excited about the new hires on D, but if we don't improve the OL situation this coming year (and the running game), it will be time for a big shakeup ASAP. We don't need another Croom/McCorvey situation and it looks pretty close at times.

[Percho]

The board is getting warmed up for baseball season**

Good thing they did not get in today's game. About one more loss is all it would take.

[Commercecomet24]

Your accusation of playing favorites is based on what? What we all think he should do? Its evident he can be abrasive and he isnt one to be seen in starkville except for the schools business, but that isnt evidence. Hevesy being distant isnt evidence either. Gonzales and Knox are very congenial.

You just seem to have come to a great deal of conclusions based on message board hysterics.

Well said. Nail on head.

[Commercecomet24]

Did any of y'all in your wildest dreams ever believe there would come a day when our fanbase would be doing this much bitching after a 9 win season? Never thought I would see the day. Smh

[Commercecomet24]

Last month Dan was elected to the Board of Trustees of the American Football Coaches Association.

How can that be true when all coaches hate to be around him and he sucks? This can't be true****

[Dawgcentral]

It might have been mentioned in prior threads, but I've failed to comb the board if so.

Could it be that Turner didn't mesh well with the new hires on the Defensive staff ?

I see that as a distinct possibility. Sure being passed over for the DC job could play a big role, but at some point you gotta consider that Mullen would promote Turner to that position of he had the faith in him to do a great job.

The way I see it. Mullen might just demand a hell of a lot more effort out of position coaches and assistants than other head coaches. As an employer, I've been accused of asking for more production than my employees believe they should give,...and those folks can't put in 40 quality hours each week.

Turner is headed for some turmoil at A&M. I don't know what his motives are, but I'm going to wait on judgement until I see the results from this new hire, as well as seeing what this totally revamped staff can do.

[gravedigger]

Did any of y'all in your wildest dreams ever believe there would come a day when our fanbase would be doing this much bitching after a 9 win season? Never thought I would see the day. Smh

To be fair, those dreams were made with a 45000 seat stadium and a coach being paid less than 1 million. But your point is true. What is more impressive is not that expectations were raised because of money, but in SPITE of the success of the unpreceedented success of the SEC west.

[Dawgtini]

To be fair, those dreams were made with a 45000 seat stadium and a coach being paid less than 1 million. But your point is true. What is more impressive is not that expectations were raised because of money, but in SPITE of the success of the unpreceedented success of the SEC west.

This is so true. The sec west has never been this tough. Since Mullen has been at state the NC winner has been from the sec west or they beat the Sec. west winner for the title. Basically people are pissed that Mullen hasn't played for and/or won the NC. SMDH

[Commercecomet24]

To be fair, those dreams were made with a 45000 seat stadium and a coach being paid less than 1 million. But your point is true. What is more impressive is not that expectations were raised because of money, but in SPITE of the success of the unpreceedented success of the SEC west.

I ran the numbers a while back and the average strength of schedule for Mullen is 26, the average strength of schedule for Jackie was 48. Also Mullen has played twice as many ranked teams his first 7 years than Jackie faced. That's due to how strong the west has been. Looking inside the numbers show Dan has done more than a respectable job here. Like you said in spite of these factors. Good post, gravedigger.

[Really Clark?]

This is so true. The sec west has never been this tough. Since Mullen has been at state the NC winner has been from the sec west or they beat the Sec. west winner for the title. Basically people are pissed that Mullen hasn't played for and/or won the NC. SMDH

Heck in 2011 season we had to play not one national title team but 2. And the only losses each had were to each other.

[RougeDawg]

Your accusation of playing favorites is based on what? What we all think he should do? Its evident he can be abrasive and he isnt one to be seen in starkville except for the schools business, but that isnt evidence. Hevesy being distant isnt evidence either. Gonzales and Knox are very congenial.

You just seem to have come to a great deal of conclusions based on message board hysterics.

Please tell someone which rock you and Dawgtini have been living under. Sallach and Hevesy should have been shown the door years ago yet remain. That is one example.

Example two, unless one has been braindead, you get zero passes for missing the fact that Dan's attitude has been brought up numerous times over many years as reasons recruits chose elsewhere. Hev's recruiting track record speaks for itself. Hev's lack of OLine development, or lack of, can also be seen by Helen Keller and Ray Charles.

Example three. Dan's meddled with the defensive scheme and coaches for years, which has been confirmed through his press conferences from his own mouth along with departing coaches.

I could go on all evening with examples of Dan rubbing others the wrong way on and off the field. If I had the time o could also link all the articles and pressers confirming Dan's meddling with the defense. but I'm not going to waste any more of my time trying to explain to anyone that water is wet. You will apparently believe that what you wish to believe and disregard and deny that which you don't. I cannot understand not comprehend for you nor anyone. The dots are there to connect. You can choose whether or not to connect them for yourself.

[gravedigger]

Please tell someone which rock you and Dawgtini have been living under. Sallach and Hevesy should have been shown the door years ago yet remain. That is one example.

Example two, unless one has been braindead, you get zero passes for missing the fact that Dan's attitude has been brought up numerous times over many years as reasons recruits chose elsewhere. Hev's recruiting track record speaks for itself. Hev's lack of OLine development, or lack of, can also be seen by Helen Keller and Ray Charles.

Example three. Dan's meddled with the defensive scheme and coaches for years, which has been confirmed through his press conferences from his own mouth along with departing coaches.

I could go on all evening with examples of Dan rubbing others the wrong way on and off the field. If I had the time o could also link all the articles and pressers confirming Dan's meddling with the defense. but I'm not going to waste any more of my time trying to explain to anyone that water is wet. You will apparently believe that what you wish to believe and disregard and deny that which you don't. I cannot understand not comprehend for you nor anyone. The dots are there to connect. You can choose whether or not to connect them for yourself.

The rock that houses people inside the program. People who deal first hand with the dc, hevesy, trainers and athletic directors. And make no mistake its not always pretty.

But reality is as far from message board theory as professional wrestling is from being a real sport.

i have no doubt you can cut and paste every chapter and verse of your dissapointment with signing day.

You are the fella that sits there and actually believes you have higher standards than the people that do this for a living.

And if by some chance some fool believes you here or on the pack that somehow negates the masses who know you are full of it.

You may now return to being envious we arent about to be hammered by the ncaa.

[Bucky Dog]

Here's some logic for everyone. How many of you on this board would want to stick around a company with an arrogant boss who obviously plays favorites to others who are undeniably underperforming? You see it year in and year out, yet nothing changes. Something opens up, be it a lateral move, and you take it because you are sick and tired of seeing someone get rewarded for performing less than you have and you are getting passed over for

Some of you need to take the maroon glasses off and look at these situations as real world job environments. If any damn one of you enjoy or would enjoy the boss playing favorites to under performers, then you are and always be just a passive sheep who will get walked on throughout life.

Please go **** yourself and your negative arrogant ass attitude!!

[Dawgtini]

Please tell someone which rock you and Dawgtini have been living under. Sallach and Hevesy should have been shown the door years ago yet remain. That is one example.

Example two, unless one has been braindead, you get zero passes for missing the fact that Dan's attitude has been brought up numerous times over many years as reasons recruits chose elsewhere. Hev's recruiting track record speaks for itself. Hev's lack of OLine development, or lack of, can also be seen by Helen Keller and Ray Charles.

Example three. Dan's meddled with the defensive scheme and coaches for years, which has been confirmed through his press conferences from his own mouth along with departing coaches.

I could go on all evening with examples of Dan rubbing others the wrong way on and off the field. If I had the time o could also link all the articles and pressers confirming Dan's meddling with the defense. but I'm not going to waste any more of my time trying to explain to anyone that water is wet. You will apparently believe that what you wish to believe and disregard and deny that which you don't. I cannot understand not comprehend for you nor anyone. The dots are there to connect. You can choose whether or not to connect them for yourself.

Lemming gonna lemming. I hope the one in front of you used your summers eve. Could prevent a rude awakening if they make a sudden stop.