Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
This offense was as disappointing as any at MSU. They were still pretty good -- but they were expected to be alot better.

I don't know how you can argue that there is a double standard there on the pressure we put on guys. Until 2014, MSU had never had an offense statistically better than the defense nationally. I had shown that before.

DL - 09 - Turner - Left to work for his pal and new head coach Joker
10 - 12 - Wilson - You wanted to keep him?
13 - 15 - Turner - ???? possible he wanted to move for reasons other than **AZZ!! YANKEE!!1!!** ??
16 - ?

LB - 09 - Torbush - You wanted to keep him?
10 - Diaz - left for a HUGE raise to TEXAS. A team with a legendary coach and coming off a fairly recent NC
11 - 14 Collins - Left for FLORIDA. Lateral? Maybe. Definitely more fertile recruit territory and with a new staff and opp. to grow his resume
15 - Diaz - Left to back to his home town with a new head coach. I bet he stays several years
16 - Sirmon - Welcome!

S - 09 - 15 Hughes - Left to become a HEAD COACH
16 - Linguist - Welcome!

CB - 09 - 12 - Smith - According to some on here he was ASKED to leave. You wanted to keep him?
13 - 15 - Townsend - Did a great job and had a shot to go back to the NFL where he wanted to be.
16 - Buckley - Welcome!

DC - 09 - Torbush -**SEE LB info above**
10 - Diaz
11 - 12 - Wilson
13 - 14 - Collins
15 - Diaz
16 - Sirmon

OL - 09 - 16 - Hevesy - Has been serviceable most years. Many on here were singing his praises for making chicken salad just over a year ago.

RB - 09 - 16 - Knox - Other than last year, we have had a consistent stud RB

TE - 09 - 16 - Sallach - I would say that TE have been a strength since the emergence of Green and RoJo

WR - 09 - 10 - Hudspeth - Left to be a HEAD COACH
11 - Mirando - Really, you though we should have kept him?
12 - Brewster - Wanted to keep him and he wanted the prestige over the $$$ for FSU. Good career move for him?
13 - 15 - Gonzalez - Doing an outstanding job!

QB - 09 - 13 - Koenning - Did fine and made room for Johnson
14 - 16 - Johnson - Awesome hire. Welcome!

OC - 09 - 13 - Koenning - In name only, and Mullen has done well since his departure.

Pretty clear difference in the standards we are holding guys to there...
So really, I don't see any MAJOR problem. Would more continuity be nice? Sure, but almost everyone listed above made a career improvement in title, location, or family life.