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Us losing Turner is not a good thing, but the UM staff is not just staying there because they love Oxford and Freeze so much. They are staying there because everyone in the coaching profession knows that they are only worth a crap because of the talent that they accumulate and they aren't going to be able to recruit that way at other schools because other schools don't drive 150 mph down the interstate. They hired a bunch of washed up has beens and guys with criminal records that all of a sudden turned into ace recruiters late in their career. It's the equivalent to Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, etc. hitting for more power at the end of their career than they did at the beginning.
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Its not unusual for new coordinators to want their own guys when they take a job. Someone that goes along with their coaching philosophy and someone they know. Not saying that's whats happening but it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. I like to study on all the possiblities before I freak out over something. Not always good just to react on emotion lol
Again- turner left on his own free will. He wasn't pushed out by any shape, form or fashion.
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Originally Posted by
Boodawg
So um doesn't lose any of their key coaches that I know of, in the wake of the investigation, and we lose our entire defensive staff. What gives?
The UM staff is under a BIG cloud at the moment. Think about it.
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Why is everything we do compared to OM? Lose the OM obsession...geez

Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Yet no Ole Miss coaches have left. Wonder why?
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Not judging good or bad - but since he entered coaching in 1986, Turner has never spent more than 3 years in one place. Moving on seems to be his MO.
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In all honesty our defense has sucked the last few years. I'm not that fussed about making a clean break.
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This is major red flags on the type of program Mullen is running. Ive never seen a prpgram with this type of attrition.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgtini
You mean we can't go straight to Mullen is an ass, we suck, YANKEE, erebody wants out of starkghanny. We poorz!! Jeez, how much little brother do some have to go straight to NM talking points.
I'm to old and seen to much to just react without studying all angles first. Things are never as bad or as good as they seem.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
This is starting to resemble Stans' last few years as HC at State. There is some behind the scenes turmoil that folks must not be discussing or something similar.
Most of us have concluded that Dan does not want to be here. Based on his job inquires. The assistants might think.....why should they hang around? Get out while the getting is good. I hope that's not the case.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg-gone-dawgs
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It's not that hard to figure out dude. Would you hire a stock trader who was under active public investigation by the SEC?
Edited to say this was for shotguns post, not yours.
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Maybe turner was upset about us hiring an outside DC.
Hey preacher, how about Ed O as co-DC**
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Calling it now -- Tosh Lupoi to State. Coached DL with Sirmon at Washington and is current outside linebackers coach at Bama @ $425k. Every bit the recruiter that Ogre is. Pay him $500k, make him co-DC, and let's churn this milk into butter.
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If nothing else, I am glad he got Simmons before he left. At least he didn't screw us over like Townsend did right before signing day. We now have a little while to hire someone before spring training.
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Originally Posted by
Big4Dawg
Wtf is wrong with our program. We lost every single coach from the defensive staff.
I tried to warn you.
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Originally Posted by
engie
Calling it now -- Tosh Lupoi to State. Coached DL with Sirmon at Washington and is current outside linebackers coach at Bama @ $425k. Every bit the recruiter that Ogre is. Pay him $500k, make him co-DC, and let's churn this milk into butter.
By far the best post in this thread.
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Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
I think it's a good thing. Maybe we will get guys who will plan for games better. It's not like our defenses hasn't given up a lot of yard the past few years. Ole Miss shamed our defensive staff last year. They all should have been fired anyways for the shit show they planed.
So the guy that kinda saved our awful recruiting class is leaving and it's a good thing? Don't be that guy.
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Originally Posted by
engie
Calling it now -- Tosh Lupoi to State. Coached DL with Sirmon at Washington and is current outside linebackers coach at Bama @ $425k. Every bit the recruiter that Ogre is. Pay him $500k, make him co-DC, and let's churn this milk into butter.
Sounds like a great get. We have a few guys to recruit MS, it would be great to get some more recruiters to broaden our recruiting areas.
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Originally Posted by
engie
Calling it now -- Tosh Lupoi to State. Coached DL with Sirmon at Washington and is current outside linebackers coach at Bama @ $425k. Every bit the recruiter that Ogre is. Pay him $500k, make him co-DC, and let's churn this milk into butter.
Would be 100% on board with this. Mullen/Sirmon better make a great hire.
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Originally Posted by
engie
Calling it now -- Tosh Lupoi to State. Coached DL with Sirmon at Washington and is current outside linebackers coach at Bama @ $425k. Every bit the recruiter that Ogre is. Pay him $500k, make him co-DC, and let's churn this milk into butter.
Now there's a rational thought! We have to start learning to spin this stuff ourselves. Everyone else spins it to their advantage, why can't we?
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Originally Posted by
state66
This is major red flags on the type of program Mullen is running. Ive never seen a prpgram with this type of attrition.
Do a little research. Mullen's number as a whole are actually pretty average. Numerous coaches in the SEC have lost more over the last 4 years.
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