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    Om ncaa trouble question

    Does anyone know a case against a school that had 30+ violations with 3 sports involved? Just wondering if there's precedent

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    According to Ole Miss they are all minor violations.

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    This is an excerpt about the USC case a few years ago.

    "This past June the NCAA announced major sanctions against USC after finding the school lacking institutional control. The sanctions also involved violations committed by former basketball player O.J. Mayo and the women’s tennis team.

    As a result, USC has been placed on four years of probation, its football team received a two-year postseason ban, with a reduction of a jaw-dropping 30 scholarships over the next three years, and has been forced to vacate 13 victories from 2004-05. The school was ordered to disassociate itself from Bush and has since done so, including removing a replica of his 2005 Heisman Trophy from display. Athletic Director Mike Garrett was also a casualty of these severe sanctions, as he is to be replaced by Pat Haden."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    According to Ole Miss they are all minor violations.
    Well that's another lie. Coaches don't get fired or "resign" over minor violations

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    This is an excerpt about the USC case a few years ago.

    "This past June the NCAA announced major sanctions against USC after finding the school lacking institutional control. The sanctions also involved violations committed by former basketball player O.J. Mayo and the women’s tennis team.

    As a result, USC has been placed on four years of probation, its football team received a two-year postseason ban, with a reduction of a jaw-dropping 30 scholarships over the next three years, and has been forced to vacate 13 victories from 2004-05. The school was ordered to disassociate itself from Bush and has since done so, including removing a replica of his 2005 Heisman Trophy from display. Athletic Director Mike Garrett was also a casualty of these severe sanctions, as he is to be replaced by Pat Haden."
    That's promising considering there's 3 sports at om and that the ncaa hit a big boy... Much, much bigger than om

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    How many violations were alleged against USC? That's the closest parallel probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    According to Ole Miss they are all minor violations.

    If that's the case then they need to release the contents of the NOA. Enquiring minds want to know. Nothing to see here***********

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    Their official spin is that the women's basketball is where all the dirty stuff was. That's the sport that is going to be hammered. Their track team will see some pretty stiff sanctions but not as bad as wbb. But the football team...the dear sweet innocent football team that helps little old ladies across the street and builds orphanages for children who escaped the circus...why they didn't do anything wrong at all. Just a couple minor infractions back during the previous coaching regime no doubt done accidentally while teaching the lame to walk and the deaf to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yjnkdawg View Post
    If that's the case then they need to release the contents of the NOA. Enquiring minds want to know. Nothing to see here***********
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    According to Ole Miss they are all minor violations.
    Hell's Bells, I've got FB friends of the bear persuasion that think it's all made up and there's nothing there. They blame that evil Scientologist Dan Mullen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg View Post
    Their official spin is that the women's basketball is where all the dirty stuff was. That's the sport that is going to be hammered. Their track team will see some pretty stiff sanctions but not as bad as wbb. But the football team...the dear sweet innocent football team that helps little old ladies across the street and builds orphanages for children who escaped the circus...why they didn't do anything wrong at all. Just a couple minor infractions back during the previous coaching regime no doubt done accidentally while teaching the lame to walk and the deaf to hear.
    Reggie Bush's family got to live in a house for free while at USC. It's pretty funny that Tunsil's family moved to Oxford.

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    Regardless, we need to continue to talk about it, posting about it on Twitter, FB, etc. Obviously the CL isn't going to do any investigative journalism on the matter. 30 violations in 3 sports. That's a big freaking deal!
    "Nothing but the dawg in me..." George Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunkaburningdawg View Post
    Regardless, we need to continue to talk about it, posting about it on Twitter, FB, etc. Obviously the CL isn't going to do any investigative journalism on the matter. 30 violations in 3 sports. That's a big freaking deal!
    And there's more to come on the Big Softie investigation. It is a big effing deal and the silence of major media in MS should tell you all you need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg View Post
    Their official spin is that the women's basketball is where all the dirty stuff was. That's the sport that is going to be hammered. Their track team will see some pretty stiff sanctions but not as bad as wbb. But the football team...the dear sweet innocent football team that helps little old ladies across the street and builds orphanages for children who escaped the circus...why they didn't do anything wrong at all. Just a couple minor infractions back during the previous coaching regime no doubt done accidentally while teaching the lame to walk and the deaf to hear.
    Thats first rate sarcasm right there. You can't teach that, you must be born with it!

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    My over under is the penalty we got in my student days for allowing Larry Gillard the same 10% clothing discount that all State students were entitled. We were hammered.

    Ole Miss is a hundred thousand times more guilty; in a just world they would be facing the death penalty, demotion to Division III, then a Division III death penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg View Post
    Their official spin is that the women's basketball is where all the dirty stuff was. That's the sport that is going to be hammered. Their track team will see some pretty stiff sanctions but not as bad as wbb. But the football team...the dear sweet innocent football team that helps little old ladies across the street and builds orphanages for children who escaped the circus...why they didn't do anything wrong at all. Just a couple minor infractions back during the previous coaching regime no doubt done accidentally while teaching the lame to walk and the deaf to hear.
    Hilarious.

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    Too bad they couldn't teach Tee Shepherd to hear.

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    I was at lunch with my brother (OM grad) and he said "it's all old minor stuff about WBB". I asked him how he could be so confident since Saunders got an 8 year show cause. He asked me who 'Saunders' was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    Reggie Bush's family got to live in a house for free while at USC. It's pretty funny that Tunsil's family moved to Oxford.
    Hell, Ward's family was living in a house for free his entire high school career and beyond courtesy of a neighborhood oil man
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    From the NCAA press release about ULL sanctions:

    The panel accepted penalties self-imposed by the university, including scholarship reductions, recruiting restrictions and a vacation of football records. Additional penalties include two years of probation, a $5,000 fine, additional recruiting restrictions and an eight-year show-cause order for the former assistant coach. During the period, if he is hired by an NCAA member school, he and the school must appear before the Committee on Infractions.

    According to the facts of the case, the former assistant coach developed a relationship with an administrator for a college entrance exam test site, which ultimately led to five prospects obtaining fraudulent exam scores. Each of the prospects was directed by the former assistant coach to take the exam at a rural Mississippi high school. Without aid from the former assistant coach, the prospects would not have known about the location because each had to travel a great distance to reach it.


    **Notice the ending statement. One could say that the Ole Miss players knew about the Waynesboro location so it wasn't a violation**

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