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You're a fool if you're calling for Mullen's head today
..over what might happen in two years.
Apparently some people want an MSU head football coach with 19 wins in the past two seasons fired for losing the Ole Miss stars game. This must be close to neurological disorder. Whatever it is, it is absurd.
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If you don't understand that the players we missed out on... will hurt us.. And that the Stars DO MATTER...
I can't help you.
Unless you are happy going to a bowl game every year But losing to Bama, LSU, and UM at least... EVERY YEAR.
Dan made the state a priority when he got hired...and the egg bowl. Then he experienced success and got cocky and hasn't kept that drive.
We got our asses kicked today. Yes there were some good things on the day.
But our weakness in the OL from a recruiting and coaching point... will be worse. because of today.
And no I'm not saying he should be fired today... But the actions of the day show the state of the program.
Last edited by ScoobaDawg; 02-03-2016 at 03:19 PM.
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I don't want Mullen gone unless he is to stubborn to do something about a couple of assistant coaches.
If he won't make those adjustments then it's time for him to go. No time for another Croom/McCorvey type relationship fiasco. This is big money business, no room for butt buddies.
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Originally Posted by
AlmostPositive
..over what might happen in two years.
Apparently some people want an MSU head football coach with 19 wins in the past two seasons fired for losing the Ole Miss stars game. This must be close to neurological disorder. Whatever it is, it is absurd.
Yep, it's totally, absolutely, stark raving insane.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Yep, it's totally, absolutely, stark raving insane.
Agree even though Mullen pisses me off a lot.
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Senior Member
Look I like ole Mulligan but he needs to move Heav to TE and Sallach to a desk. Hire a OL coach and let them work.
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Originally Posted by
ScoobaDawg
If you don't understand that the players we missed out on... will hurt us.. And that the Stars DO MATTER...
I can't help you.
Unless you are happy going to a bowl game every year But losing to Bama, LSU, and UM at least... EVERY YEAR.
Dan made the state a priority when he got hired...and the egg bowl. Then he experienced success and got cocky and hasn't kept that drive.
We got our asses kicked today. Yes there were some good things on the day.
But our weakness in the OL from a recruiting and coaching point... will be worse. because of today.
And no I'm not saying he should be fired today... But the actions of the day show the state of the program.
All of this is true and the original post is still true (at least the title). This recruiting season was a huge wasted opportunity and that's on the staff, and people that want him fired over it are still idiots.
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I think minimal heads need to roll and Dan needs to be reprimanded for the crap he pulled from November til today. Scott and Keenum need to send a message that talking to other programs before signing day will get you fired, period. The heads that need to roll are the usual, Hev and Sallach. We are pretty much conceding one recruiter by trotting Sallach out there and we are losing players because of Hev. Inexcusable for an SEC program. Cut the fat. Bring back Grimes if need be and hire a recruiter to coach tight ends and special teams. As long as David Turner is on staff with our additions, we will always recruit good defensively. Give Gonzo some help with the offensive recruits and hire 2 bang up recruiters.
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Originally Posted by
AlmostPositive
..over what might happen in two years.
Apparently some people want an MSU head football coach with 19 wins in the past two seasons fired for losing the Ole Miss stars game. This must be close to neurological disorder. Whatever it is, it is absurd.
Then the mother****er needs to quit trying to leave when he has been given everything he has asked for and more. And if we had an Oline that wasn't shat we would have been a playoff team and have a few more wins.
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If we could move Sallach to the office and hire 2 first rate recruiters, a lot could be solved. Dan has built a good program but he has to fix the Oline to compete for championships.
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Originally Posted by
AlmostPositive
..over what might happen in two years.
Apparently some people want an MSU head football coach with 19 wins in the past two seasons fired for losing the Ole Miss stars game. This must be close to neurological disorder. Whatever it is, it is absurd.
Why make a blanket statement that 99% of the board agrees with? Who are you calling out, 2 people? We can't fire Mullen right now, but he damn sure needs to make some changes and I don't think he will do it.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
If we could move Sallach to the office and hire 2 first rate recruiters, a lot could be solved. Dan has built a good program but he has to fix the Oline to compete for championships.
I don't agree.
The problem with our program rests with the fact that the head coach sets the pace in recruiting. Mullen could hire all the recruiters in the world & it wouldn't make one bit of difference unless Dan Mullen makes it his committment in life to be a GREAT recruiter & passionately pursue that every day.
It starts with him, & he has to make changes, if this problem is to be fixed
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Originally Posted by
AlmostPositive
..over what might happen in two years.
Apparently some people want an MSU head football coach with 19 wins in the past two seasons fired for losing the Ole Miss stars game. This must be close to neurological disorder. Whatever it is, it is absurd.
He doesn't really want to be here...!!!!!!. That's the problem.. And if anyone thinks differently they have neurological disorder.. If he can change that mindset it will be a start...
And with the " We won 19 games the last 2 years" ... That's great I agree.. .. We are 2-10 against Bama, LSU, and UMiss the last 4 years..
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This thread is M-State summed up.
1/3 are just glad we didn't lose to a Maine the last few years (that's my Dad God love him)
1/3 are fine with being "good" (I assume that's almost positive)
1/3 want to be THE best and apply as much pressure as possible to make it so (I fall into that category)
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If he takes the company plane on a job interview in 2016 he needs to be fired before the wheels touch down. We need unequivocal, undeniable, unmistakable commitment from him. No menacing of words. No avoiding reports. He needs to come out with something stronger than a "pine box" statement as soon as whispers of his name are mentioned for another coaching job. ANYTHING short of that and I'll help him pack.
If he does that though, and keeps winning 9/10 games a year with an occasional run at Atlanta, he can stay as long as he wants. That's the truth and no amount of bitching on a message board will change that.
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Requiring a HC being paid 4 mill to be dedicated and apply 100% effort to the program shouldn't be asking too much. Letting hevesy hang around while looking into jobs like MD and others tells me he's not all in. He once was i believe but something changed. We don't need someone who doesn't want to be here. That goes for players too. It just never ends well.
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Originally Posted by
mic
He doesn't really want to be here...!!!!!!. That's the problem.. And if anyone thinks differently they have neurological disorder.. If he can change that mindset it will be a start...
And with the " We won 19 games the last 2 years" ... That's great I agree.. .. We are 2-10 against Bama, LSU, and UMiss the last 4 years..
Game. Set. Match. Maybe we can join the SWAC and go undefeated and then these guys can run around telling everybody that we are undefeated!
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Originally Posted by
gtowndawg
This thread is M-State summed up.
1/3 are just glad we didn't lose to a Maine the last few years (that's my Dad God love him)
1/3 are fine with being "good" (I assume that's almost positive)
1/3 want to be THE best and apply as much pressure as possible to make it so (I fall into that category)
Put me into the 3rd category as well. If these guys can't see how years like this hurt us then I don't really know what to say
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
If he takes the company plane on a job interview in 2016 he needs to be fired before the wheels touch down. We need unequivocal, undeniable, unmistakable commitment from him. No menacing of words. No avoiding reports. He needs to come out with something stronger than a "pine box" statement as soon as whispers of his name are mentioned for another coaching job. ANYTHING short of that and I'll help him pack.
If he does that though, and keeps winning 9/10 games a year with an occasional run at Atlanta, he can stay as long as he wants. That's the truth and no amount of bitching on a message board will change that.
Yep, when Mullen took our HC job he said that most all fan bases tire of their HC and want him gone after 10 years. Well, to me it seems that our HC has grown tired of us after 7 years and is/was looking to get out. THAT is the problem. If Dan would act committed to us then most everybody would be all in on him. What happened today IMO was mostly due to a disengaged HC and some bad recruiters on staff. That's a REALLY bad combination.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
If he takes the company plane on a job interview in 2016 he needs to be fired before the wheels touch down. We need unequivocal, undeniable, unmistakable commitment from him. No menacing of words. No avoiding reports. He needs to come out with something stronger than a "pine box" statement as soon as whispers of his name are mentioned for another coaching job. ANYTHING short of that and I'll help him pack.
If he does that though, and keeps winning 9/10 games a year with an occasional run at Atlanta, he can stay as long as he wants. That's the truth and no amount of bitching on a message board will change that.
If I were Stricklin, I would tell Mullen to tell his agent that his name better not come out for any more job openings. If it does, he better hope he gets that job.
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