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    Quote Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX View Post
    Agreed, I think the only question is how bad is it going to get on Wednesday afternoon. If it's bama, it's one thing...
    Yea. I'm not in the camp where I'll be ok with guys going to Bama over OM....bc either way, both of those teams could stop recruiting right now and finish with top 10 classes. We have to hope for Kobe & Lashley to get top 45. Pathetic.

    Starz are not everything. In fact, I don't think there's a ton of difference btwn say a #8 class and a #15 class...but there damn sure is a big difference between a top 3 class and #45 class. There's no debating that shit.

    Ole Miss & Bama aren't the only two games on the schedule, but it's hard not to compare to their classes when we have to play them every single year, as well as every other West team that is recruiting better than us (all of them).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX View Post
    So why the late offer?
    Because we had a guy flip last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX View Post
    So why the late offer?
    We want 3 receivers in this class

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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdog View Post
    Sirmon is making a push for Riley Cole
    So is Bob Stoops. I can't stand that guy. Already offered him a scholly

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    Oh, and not to be all negative, but I keep hearing all this shit about "watch out for our 2017 class"....tell me why I should think we'll land all these prospects with "in roads to MSU" next year, when we failed to get any of the prospects with "in roads to MSU" this year? If we miss out of AJ, Simmons, & Knott, y'all can have 2017 recruiting, bc I'm not falling for this shit again. Not the way we close on prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    Yea. I'm not in the camp where I'll be ok with guys going to Bama over OM....bc either way, both of those teams could stop recruiting right now and finish with top 10 classes. We have to hope for Kobe & Lashley to get top 45. Pathetic.

    Starz are not everything. In fact, I don't think there's a ton of difference btwn say a #8 class and a #15 class...but there damn sure is a big difference between a top 3 class and #45 class. There's no debating that shit.

    Ole Miss & Bama aren't the only two games on the schedule, but it's hard not to compare to their classes when we have to play them every single year, as well as every other West team that is recruiting better than us (all of them).
    I'm not ok with it, but it's a little easier pill to swallow.

    Agreed on the ranking number...with the current numbers in the class, we're really going to have to hope most of these guys work out and contribute.

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    This is what I've been screaming

    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    Oh, and not to be all negative, but I keep hearing all this shit about "watch out for our 2017 class"....tell me why I should think we'll land all these prospects with "in roads to MSU" next year, when we failed to get any of the prospects with "in roads to MSU" this year? If we miss out of AJ, Simmons, & Knott, y'all can have 2017 recruiting, bc I'm not falling for this shit again. Not the way we close on prospects.
    We talk about "connections" for 2017 when we couldn't hold on to the 5 guys within 20 miles of our campus. That is bad, bad news folks. Really bad news. Something is broken in the recruiting process for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    Kobe is signing with MSU.
    Yes. And like I posted last night, his visit did NOT go well at UNM and they came to our coaches and spent a few hours here yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    We talk about "connections" for 2017 when we couldn't hold on to the 5 guys within 20 miles of our campus. That is bad, bad news folks. Really bad news. Something is broken in the recruiting process for us.
    Preach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Yes. And like I posted last night, his visit did NOT go well at UNM and they came to our coaches and spent a few hours here yesterday.
    What I don't really understand is, why hasn't Kobe helped more with AJ? Are they friends?

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    Quote Originally Posted by civildawg View Post
    Preach
    The 2017 guys are all MSU leans. The local 2016 guys were never leans except for Jones and Lashley. Apples to oranges.

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    It literally could not have set up better for us....

    We were #1 in the Nation last year.
    We lost our top WR after the season. A guy that is going pro early.
    We lost BOTH CB's. Both will be NFL picks.
    We lost our best DT. A guy that is going pro early.

    We have a bad ass WR in Starkville that can step right into DeRunnya's spot.
    We have a bad ass CB in MS whose sis is at MSU, & can compete for a CB spot right away.
    We have a bad ass DT 20 miles from campus that can play day 1.

    Result.....we get none of them?

    If that happens, we can try to paint as rosey a picture as possible, but that's ****ing awful and embarrassing, and someone didn't do their job. I don't give a rats ass if a player wanted to leave the State. Has a salesperson ever sold you something you didn't exactly need? You can't just mail someone a brochure & expect that to seal the deal. You gotta work, just like you tell the players they'll have to do.

    (I'm using the brochure thing as an example, not saying we actually do that. Since I know somebody will take that literally.)
    Last edited by CadaverDawg; 02-01-2016 at 10:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    What I don't really understand is, why hasn't Kobe helped more with AJ? Are they friends?
    AJ and Tyson Carter are best friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdog View Post
    AJ and Tyson Carter are best friends.
    I know. The AJ recruitment just doesn't add up. AJ and Hankerson are related.

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    If Mullen pulls off AJ, Simmons, Jones, and Lashley after all the negative reports we're hearing on AJ & Simmons....put a statue up and I'm never questioning his ass again.*

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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdog View Post
    The 2017 guys are all MSU leans. The local 2016 guys were never leans except for Jones and Lashley. Apples to oranges.
    Why aren't we ever consistent year to year with this stuff? It seems like every other year is they year for our "connections" in the state?

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    Uh we lost Farrar. They wanted two 6'3 or larger receivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    If Mullen pulls off AJ, Simmons, Jones, and Lashley after all the negative reports we're hearing on AJ & Simmons....put a statue up and I'm never questioning his ass again.*
    Well we got 2 of them so I far. Simmons is a hard read but I still like our position on him. AJ is the longest shot, IMO.

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    Heard Sirmon started following the Riley kid that decommtted from Bama on Twitter..
    Get him in.. Kid will play with a chip on his shoulder..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElitedawgRecruiting View Post
    Seriously. Bash the Bears all you want but they don't attack their own like we do. Calm down. This has been the worst recruiting cycle for our fans ever. Goes back to the old saying, I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you
    I'm sorry, I don't see any MSU fans bashing each other in this thread. Could some of this discussion wait until after Wednesday? Yes. But right now MSU fans are all pretty much in the same boat trying to understand, after all the on-field success and facility upgrades of the past few years, why we are we not able to recruit at a higher level? Especially with the top guys in our home state. Its a more than valid concern right now and has nothing to do with anyone attacking someone. And this has been the worst recruiting cycle for our fans (and for MSU) because it doesn't appears its going to meet reasonable expectations.

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