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So how many juniors does Bama lose, here is the list....
78 Korren Kirven OL/DL JR 6-4/300 2L Lynchburg, Va. (Brookville)
56 Tim Williams LB JR 6-4/230 2L Baton Rouge, La. (University Lab)
21 Maurice Smith DB JR 6-0/199 2L Sugar Land, Texas (Fort Bend Dulles)
51 Jake Long DL JR 5-9/226 SQ Vestavia Hills, Ala. (Vestavia Hills)
48 David D'Amico TE JR 6-0/211 SQ Birmingham, Ala. (Vestavia Hills)
10 Reuben Foster LB JR 6-1/240 2L Auburn, Ala. (Auburn)
2 Derrick Henry RB JR 6-3/242 2L Yulee, Fla. (Yulee)
62 Will Davis OL JR 6-5/315 SQ Letohatchee, Ala. (Fort Dale Academy)
55 Cole Mazza SN JR 6-2/240 2L Bakersfield, Calif. (Liberty)
22 Ryan Anderson LB JR 6-2/249 2L Daphne, Ala. (Daphne)
93 Jonathan Allen DL JR 6-3/283 2L Leesburg, Va. (Stone Bridge)
88 O.J. Howard TE JR 6-6/242 2L Prattville, Ala. (Autauga Academy)
11 Alec Morris QB JR 6-3/233 1L Allen, Texas (Allen)
82 JaMichael Willis WR JR 6-0/180 TR Gardendale, Ala. (Southern Miss.)
50 Alphonse Taylor OL JR 6-5/325 2L Mobile, Ala. (Davidson)
4 Eddie Jackson DB JR 6-0/194 2L Lauderdale Lakes, Fla. (Boyd Anderson)
47 Bo Grant DB JR 6-2/195 SQ Valley, Ala. (Valley)
58 Brandon Greene TE JR 6-5/300 2L Ellenwood, Ga. (Cedar Grove)
41 Blaine Anderson DB JR 5-10/170 SQ Charlotte, N.C. (Myers Park)
86 A'Shawn Robinson DL JR 6-4/312 2L Fort Worth, Texas (Arlington Heights)
99 Adam Griffith PK JR 5-10/192 2L Calhoun, Ga. (Calhoun)
65 Chris Posa OL JR 6-4/281 SQ Commerce, Mich. (St. Mary's Prep)
94 Dakota Ball TE/DL JR 6-3/254 1L Lindale, Ga. (Pepperell)
1 Chris Black WR JR 6-0/192 2L Jacksonville, Fla. (First Coast)
31 Nate Staskelunas DB JR 6-3/210 SQ Greenville, N.C. (Arendell Parrott Academy)
54 Dalvin Tomlinson DL JR 6-3/294 2L McDonaugh, Ga. (Henry County)
80 Raheem Falkins WR JR 6-4/210 2L New Orleans, La. (G.W. Carver)
I've highlighted the guys in red, I hope and pray leave.
I think all 7 would get drafted in the top 3 rounds.
They have another 4 seniors that are guaranteed draft picks as well. Not too bad.
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I think there is a chance Eddie Jackson could leave early as well & Chris Black has already transferred.
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At least 5 of the 7 highlighted are probably top 5 type guys at their positions. They'll go.
Either way though, a Saban coached Bama with about 20 Sr's on the roster will be good again. Probably not national championship good, but good enough to compete for the West yet again. LSU will handle them though.
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NFL Bound: Robinson, Allen, Henry, Howard and (probably) Jackson
Likely Coming Back: Foster, Anderson, Williams
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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Originally Posted by
TUSK
NFL Bound: Robinson, Allen, Henry, Howard and (probably) Jackson
Likely Coming Back: Foster, Anderson, Williams
Who is the likely QB, RB, and how many O-linemen are you losing?
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Henry, Robinson, and Anderson are gone. Eddie Jackson could go and that would make sense, OJ Howard could go but that wouldn't be a great idea in my opinion. The rest should be back, although Foster could be a dark horse to bolt.
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Originally Posted by
615
Henry, Robinson, and Anderson are gone. Eddie Jackson could go and that would make sense, OJ Howard could go but that wouldn't be a great idea in my opinion. The rest should be back, although Foster could be a dark horse to bolt.
OJ Howard is going in the top 2 rounds it would be crazy to come back.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Who is the likely QB, RB, and how many O-linemen are you losing?
Blake Barnett QB
Scarbrough and Harris RB
2 (Kelly/C and Jackson/RT)
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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What is this fascination with OJ Howard...yes he had a good game and is a great athlete but yesterday marked his first TD since 2013...it is 2016...the guy is supposed to be a receiving tight end
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Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
OJ Howard is going in the top 2 rounds it would be crazy to come back.
Fact.
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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Originally Posted by
615
What is this fascination with OJ Howard...yes he had a good game and is a great athlete but yesterday marked his first TD since 2013...it is 2016...the guy is supposed to be a receiving tight end
He's a great athlete with great skill & is going to absolutely crush the combine. His lack of #'s are due more to Lane Kiffin not getting him involved more so than anything he didn't do.
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Great athlete no doubt. Great skill? Maybe we haven't watched the same guy. He had a good game yesterday but had the dropsies for the better part of three years. Say what you want about Kiffin but he isn't stupid, if Howard was really that special he would have been utilized. Bama has had a top 20 scoring offense each of Howard's 3 seasons there, he has scored a total of 4 TD's as a full time starter, 2 of them being last night. None since his freshman year before that.
He has NFL skill no doubt, but I wouldn't spend a high pick on him no way no how. More than the stats, he just looks unnatural as a receiver. He got outmuscled by Senquez Golson against OM for a game ending interception last year while Golson was giving up about 9 inches and 70 pounds. Every time I watched them he was dropping passes.
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Originally Posted by
615
Great athlete no doubt. Great skill? Maybe we haven't watched the same guy. He had a good game yesterday but had the dropsies for the better part of three years. Say what you want about Kiffin but he isn't stupid, if Howard was really that special he would have been utilized. Bama has had a top 20 scoring offense each of Howard's 3 seasons there, he has scored a total of 4 TD's as a full time starter, 2 of them being last night. None since his freshman year before that.
He has NFL skill no doubt, but I wouldn't spend a high pick on him no way no how. More than the stats, he just looks unnatural as a receiver. He got outmuscled by Senquez Golson against OM for a game ending interception last year while Golson was giving up about 9 inches and 70 pounds. Every time I watched them he was dropping passes.
OJ Howard has an NFL skill set. Jimmy Graham was barely used at Miami. OJ Howard was going to go pro before he showed everyone his freak athleticism.
Now, its a no brainer. He is the type of guy New England grabs at the end of the first round and turns into a pro bowler.
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Originally Posted by
615
Great athlete no doubt. Great skill? Maybe we haven't watched the same guy. He had a good game yesterday but had the dropsies for the better part of three years. Say what you want about Kiffin but he isn't stupid, if Howard was really that special he would have been utilized. Bama has had a top 20 scoring offense each of Howard's 3 seasons there, he has scored a total of 4 TD's as a full time starter, 2 of them being last night. None since his freshman year before that.
He has NFL skill no doubt, but I wouldn't spend a high pick on him no way no how. More than the stats, he just looks unnatural as a receiver. He got outmuscled by Senquez Golson against OM for a game ending interception last year while Golson was giving up about 9 inches and 70 pounds. Every time I watched them he was dropping passes.
All that may be true but he will go in the 1st 2rds of the draft this year.
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Jimmy Graham played one season of football at Miami and in that season caught more TD's than OJ Howard has in his entire career.
Jimmy Graham ran a 4.56 40 at 6-7 260 with a 38.5 vert at the combine.
Jimmy Graham was a third round pick.
If OJ Howard is drafted in the first two rounds of the draft, someone is going to get fired. The numbers don't always tell the story, but watch Howard's tape and tell me with a straight face he is a good tight end.
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Originally Posted by
615
Jimmy Graham played one season of football at Miami and in that season caught more TD's than OJ Howard has in his entire career.
Jimmy Graham ran a 4.56 40 at 6-7 260 with a 38.5 vert at the combine.
Jimmy Graham was a third round pick.
If OJ Howard is drafted in the first two rounds of the draft, someone is going to get fired. The numbers don't always tell the story, but watch Howard's tape and tell me with a straight face he is a good tight end.
He had 17 catches for 213 yards.
Basically 8 more yards than OJ had last night.
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We will see how it works. OJ Howard is big, he has speed, and looks the part. Size and speed doesn't always equal athleticism though; he just doesn't seem to have the body control, hand eye coordination, or hands to be special. I highly doubt he will ever be an impact pass catching tight end. Time will tell, but that guy had every chance to be a factor at Bama and didn't do diddly besides last night. Every time I watched him I came away unimpressed. Wouldn't want my team to spend a premium pick on him, he screams bust to me.
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Originally Posted by
615
Jimmy Graham played one season of football at Miami and in that season caught more TD's than OJ Howard has in his entire career.
Jimmy Graham ran a 4.56 40 at 6-7 260 with a 38.5 vert at the combine.
Jimmy Graham was a third round pick.
If OJ Howard is drafted in the first two rounds of the draft, someone is going to get fired. The numbers don't always tell the story, but watch Howard's tape and tell me with a straight face he is a good tight end.
somebody's prolly gonna get fired.
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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I was implying that it would be a few years down the road after he doesn't do $hit. Someone could/probably will become enamored with him after the combine and convince themselves they can make him into something special, sorry I just don't see it working out that way. God knows I've been wrong about things before, though.
I know we think starZZ don't matter, but right now all this guy has is five starZ and one game of production. Yes he is an impressive athlete, but guess what, there are a lot of em in the NFL. If his athleticism couldn't help him stand out in college, forgive me for thinking it won't make him stand out in the NFL.
Last edited by 615; 01-12-2016 at 04:01 PM.
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Reminded me of Kellen Winslow
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