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    Looking at Next Year...

    The schedule sets up well for another nine to 10 win season. We have South Carolina at home early, go to LSU. I don't expect for State to win in Baton Rouge, but should win all the non conference games, plus beat Auburn and A&M at home. The BYU game on the road could be a toss up, as well as the Ole Miss game on the road. I don't expect to beat Alabama in T-Town. Am I looking through rose colored glasses?
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    7 is the floor. 11 is the ceiling.

    Anything 7.5 or under from Vegas and I'll take the over.

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    I refuse to believe that we will struggle to run the ball as much as we did this year so that will take some pressure off of Fitz (or Staley). We have a defense full of young guys but we have got to fix the secondary and get some more bodies up front. I really believe if Ross AND Bear come back then we have a great shot at 8-10 wins. Also agree that 7 should be the floor.

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    Does BYU have a coach yet? I'm not worried about that one at all, we are much further as a program than we were last time we played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    Does BYU have a coach yet? I'm not worried about that one at all, we are much farther as a program than we were last time we played.
    BYU also lost to Mizzou this year -- I'm really not worried about them

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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitthedawg View Post
    The schedule sets up well for another nine to 10 win season. We have South Carolina at home early, go to LSU. I don't expect for State to win in Baton Rouge, but should win all the non conference games, plus beat Auburn and A&M at home. The BYU game on the road could be a toss up, as well as the Ole Miss game on the road. I don't expect to beat Alabama in T-Town. Am I looking through rose colored glasses?
    Alabama is a definite loss, as is Ole Miss unless Kelly decides to unexpectedly leave early or gets hurt. LSU is a probable loss. Every other game on the schedule we should win. BYU wasn't very good and they are going through a coaching change so it will likely be an adjustment year for them anyway. 9-3 should be the expectation, anything better is gravy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    Does BYU have a coach yet? I'm not worried about that one at all, we are much farther as a program than we were last time we played.
    They hired Oregon States DC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitthedawg View Post
    The schedule sets up well for another nine to 10 win season. We have South Carolina at home early, go to LSU. I don't expect for State to win in Baton Rouge, but should win all the non conference games, plus beat Auburn and A&M at home. The BYU game on the road could be a toss up, as well as the Ole Miss game on the road. I don't expect to beat Alabama in T-Town. Am I looking through rose colored glasses?
    Yes. You're not wrong that the schedule sets up well for a nine or 10 win season, it just doesn't set up a nine or 10 win season for the team we're going to have.

    We're going to have our own problems to overcome. We should have 3 OOC gimmes, and then games we should win but are within the margin of error against USC, BYU, and UK. Auburn and A&M have flirted with dumpster fire status. Auburn has righted the ship more than A&M but we're closer to them in talent. That should be a toss-up game at worst. A&M has more talent than us but have to figure out their QB situation. That game could end up being anywhere from MSU being solidly favored to MSU being a sold dog. Depending on how things go, that could be 4 wins to 8 wins out of that group. Then you have Arkansas that I expect to be favored over us (their better positioned to lose their qb than we are). Then you have what I would expect to be a toss-up b/w UM and MSU but it's at Oxford and I'm not going to assume that we show up prepared for another egg bowl until we do it. Then you have LSU that I think is going to be too talented for us in Baton Rouge and a sure loss to Bama.

    There is so much uncertainty with the SEC W teams, we could certainly end up with 8 relatively easy wins and then a couple of toss-ups, but I think it's much more likely that we'll end up with 4 or 5 easy wins, another 3 or 2 should wins, one or two toss-ups and one or two should lose games and then one or two certain losses.

    Next year will be mroe important than most that we take care of all the games we're favored in, because that might only be five or six games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missouridawg View Post
    7 is the floor. 11 is the ceiling.

    Anything 7.5 or under from Vegas and I'll take the over.
    Ross,Bear, Jones and Brown all declare. What is the record then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Statefan View Post
    BYU also lost to Mizzou this year -- I'm really not worried about them
    I think its when we played them. They seem to start strong then injuries hit them and they fall off.

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    Arkansas will be harder to deal with next year even at home and Auburn wont be the door knob they were this year ... like you I am optimistic because I (probably the only one here) think the drop off in QB play wont be as bad as expected ...obviously it will drop but it certainly wont fall off the face of the earth ... several of our young players looked good yesterday and while that maturing process will take a while I still think we will be satisfied as a fanbase with next years results
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    Quote Originally Posted by FISHDAWG View Post
    Arkansas will be harder to deal with next year even at home and Auburn wont be the door knob they were this year ... like you I am optimistic because I (probably the only one here) think the drop off in QB play wont be as bad as expected ...obviously it will drop but it certainly wont fall off the face of the earth ... several of our young players looked good yesterday and while that maturing process will take a while I still think we will be satisfied as a fanbase with next years results
    I think Mullen is to Arkansas whe Houston nutt was to us when he was there. If Arkansas couldn't beat us this year as hot as they were late I don't know if they will in the near future. I think Mullen has their number and I just don't think we lose a home SEC game next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runwildjerious View Post
    I refuse to believe that we will struggle to run the ball as much as we did this year so that will take some pressure off of Fitz (or Staley). We have a defense full of young guys but we have got to fix the secondary and get some more bodies up front. I really believe if Ross AND Bear come back then we have a great shot at 8-10 wins. Also agree that 7 should be the floor.
    What gives any hope of having a better run game? I don't think any QB is going to be a better runner than Dak. We also return the Holloway / Shumpert up the middle run game. Has Mullen ever started a underclassmen over a senior at RB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    What gives any hope of having a better run game? I don't think any QB is going to be a better runner than Dak. We also return the Holloway / Shumpert up the middle run game. Has Mullen ever started a underclassmen over a senior at RB?
    Much of the thought comes from the fact that the running game really can't get any worse, so it has nowhere to go but up. Kinda like if you make a 3 on the ACT test, surely you will do better next time. If you make a 34 on the ACT test, then it's going to be hard to improve your score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    What gives any hope of having a better run game? I don't think any QB is going to be a better runner than Dak. We also return the Holloway / Shumpert up the middle run game. Has Mullen ever started a underclassmen over a senior at RB?
    My best case for a better run game:

    (1) We can run our QB a lot more next year. We couldn't run Dak a lot and run the risk of hurting him and only having a RS Freshman to play qb. We won't have as big of a drop-off from 1st to 2nd team QB next year. We can run Fitz and Staley a lot and then cut back if one gets banged up.
    (2) Shump at FB will allow us to add some plays with an extra blocker.
    (3) Dear and Myles will provide us a better option for run plays out of the slot.
    (4) Our weakest link on the OL won't be as weak as the weakest link this year. Even losing Malone, a RS So Jenkins, a RS SO calhoun, and a Sr. Desper will not be as weak as Warren and RS Fr Jenkins were this year.
    (5) Aeris Williams and D. Lee will get to play next year and Holloway will be used appropriately rather than asking Shump and Holloway to do things they're not capable of doing.

    But this is mostly a devil's advocate argument. I do think we'll run the QB more next year and that will help a lot. I do think our weaker link on the OL will be a little stronger this year, but not so much stronger that it makes a huge difference. But the other three items require that Dan do things I just don't expect him to do. We're going to have a RB by committee next year, Holloway is going to get used like Perkins did his senior year, Shump is going to get used like Nick Griffin got used his senior year (but with more playing time), and Aeris and D. Lee will play the role of Josh Robinson.

    I think just bringing back the read option will make us better, but we're still going to be pretty mediocre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HSVDawg View Post
    Alabama is a definite loss, as is Ole Miss unless Kelly decides to unexpectedly leave early or gets hurt. LSU is a probable loss. Every other game on the schedule we should win. BYU wasn't very good and they are going through a coaching change so it will likely be an adjustment year for them anyway. 9-3 should be the expectation, anything better is gravy.
    I don't get all of the UM love next year. I don't fear Kelly in the least, and other than him who do they have coming back? Still won't be able to run the ball and they will lose their best 2 OL. Also, Kelly had a great EB but looked like a complete dipshit out there at times. I feel like a lot of his success came from being the product of a system and having great receivers. I am not saying we will win in Oxford next year, but saying it is a definite loss is a stretch.

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    4 OOC wins. We beat Kentucky. It's what we do. We get SC early and they will still be adjusting to a new staff, and aren't that good of a squad right now to be honest. Auburn will struggle again next season and A&M can't find a defense.

    WR, RB, and OL should be the same or better. If Bear and Fred come back we're going to be scary good at WR. RB looks like it should get a big boost from Shump after his performance in the bowl game. I think a light has gone off for he and Williams, plus we have Holloway still along with DLee and a deep freshman group to pull from. They're going to help a lot on special teams too. I wasn't so positive before the bowl game, but I'm convinced that they've already gotten better and will continue to do so through the spring and summer. OL won't be worse and they look improved after bowl practice too.

    We may have the best S combo that we've had under Mullen. DT isn't a forgone conclusion as a let down because no one has declared yet... "Yet" being the key word though. Hope it holds. Also, our LBs will be a year older and better. We may have the best LB corps in the SEC. Also going to help on special teams. I really think if the defense decides en masse to come back, they could be very special. I can se a few surprises popping up on the defensive side of the ball too. You heard it here first...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    I don't think any QB is going to be a better runner than Dak.
    You are in for a surprise

    Has Mullen ever started a underclassmen over a senior at RB?
    Robinson over Griffin last year

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    Agree Engie. I think Fitz is a better runner. If he doesn't rip off 1,000 next year (assuming he doesn't split time), I'll be surprised.

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    A&M better be marked as a win. They have 1 QB. Not even a commit yet.

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