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talking basketball IQ
who are your top 5 Bulldogs with basketball IQ
1. Gary Hooker
2. Shane Power
3. L-Rob
4. Brandon Vincent
5. Detrick White tied with Timmy Bower
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Chucky Evans
Marcus Grant
Darryl Wilson- he could set people up for screens and work to get shots off like a pro. Helluva shooter to be 6'1 or so- he had to do that to get off shots
I'd add those in somewhere.
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Originally Posted by
tcdog70
who are your top 5 Bulldogs with basketball IQ
1. Gary Hooker
2. Shane Power
3. L-Rob
4. Brandon Vincent
5. Detrick White tied with Timmy Bower
Got to put Randy way up there. He maximized his talent as much or more than anybody else I can remember. His decision making didn't look as good as it was because he was a role player forced to play a leading role.
Varnado seemed pretty smart. Not sure about offense, but he had defense figured out.
I'd put Timmy Bower high.
I'd put Ontario Harper pretty high.
Z was pretty good.
I'd put Gary Edmonson at the bottom of my list.
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Quinn will end up on this list
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1. Jamont Gordon
2. Kodi Augustus
3. Big Suge
4. Deville Smith
5. Sleepy
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Originally Posted by
Johnson85
Varnado seemed pretty smart. Not sure about offense, but he had defense figured out.
I consider "instinct" a big part of basketball IQ, especially regarding C's, and Jarvis had that in droves. He was also an extremely nice and polite guy. Easily one of my favorite MSU players of all time.
I'm actually surprised we don't have some type of banner or sign recognizing his NCAA record in the Hump; I believe he is the only MSU player to hold an NCAA record of significance (but I could be wrong).
It's a shame he didn't catch on in the league. If he was about 40lbs heavier, and about 2 inches taller, he would be a big role player for a number of teams needing a good rebounder and shot blocker.
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Antonio Jackson - would have been better with a supporting cast. Him Marckell and Tang hung with some pretty good teams by themselves.
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Winsome Frazier at least had defensive IQ. He could flat shut people down.
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Gary Ervin
Dietrich Slater
Kodi Augustus
Ravern Johnson
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Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
Gary Ervin
Dietrich Slater
Kodi Augustus
Ravern Johnson
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Shit...I forgot about Ravern. It takes a special kind of player to lead the fast break, with 4 on 1, but pull up for a deep 3.....ending with a definitive *clank" off the rim.
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1. Jeff Malone
2. Darryl Wilson
3. Dontae Jones
4. Lawrence Roberts
5. Doug Hartsfield
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Bullard
Zimmerman
Bowers
Power
Hyche
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Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
Shit...I forgot about Ravern. It takes a special kind of player to lead the fast break, with 4 on 1, but pull up for a deep 3.....ending with a definitive *clank" off the rim.
Ravern actually had a decent BB IQ. He knew how to use screens and use open space. His problem was not giving a shit. he would practice the hell out of his shot but not put int he work in the weight room or on dribbling or on defense.
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Originally Posted by
Johnson85
Ravern actually had a decent BB IQ. He knew how to use screens and use open space. His problem was not giving a shit. he would practice the hell out of his shot but not put int he work in the weight room or on dribbling or on defense.
This is true. He's another example of a player with unbelievable potential, but ****ed it up by not giving 2 shits. His stroke was pure, and at 6'7", would have been a perfect fit at the 2 spot in the NBA had he worked on his handle and strength.
Jamont is another example of a player of wasted talent. I'd love to see him play under Howland....absolutely love it. Granted he's made a nice living for himself overseas, but with the right direction and development, he could have been a super star.
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Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
Shit...I forgot about Ravern. It takes a special kind of player to lead the fast break, with 4 on 1, but pull up for a deep 3.....ending with a definitive *clank" off the rim.
Every time Ravern shot I actually assumed it was going in.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Chucky Evans
Marcus Grant
Darryl Wilson- he could set people up for screens and work to get shots off like a pro. Helluva shooter to be 6'1 or so- he had to do that to get off shots
I'd add those in somewhere.
Wilson was a great shooter, but Bullard was the floor general.
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Originally Posted by
chef dixon
Every time Ravern shot I actually assumed it was going in.
I agree, but on his spot up shots, or the screen game. The example I gave happened numerous times, and it was infuriating.
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Originally Posted by
chef dixon
Every time Ravern shot I actually assumed it was going in.
I was this way with Shane Power in our 26-4 season.
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