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Some one explaine to me why Neb fired a 9 win coach?
It doesn't look like it is panning out for them. Unless something happens they are going to have a eight lost season.
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Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
It doesn't look like it is panning out for them. Unless something happens they are going to have a eight lost season.
Because they fired Frank Solich who was winning 10 games per season. Neither guy is Tom Osbourne and until a coach gets them back to their Glory Days- they will keep firing them
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Because they fired Frank Solich who was winning 10 games per season. Neither guy is Tom Osbourne and until a coach gets them back to their Glory Days- they will keep firing them
Tom Osborn maybe, as weird as this is to say, underrated when talking all time greats. Never won less than 9 games at Neb. Never. That's a consistency that will probably never be matched again.
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Nebraska needs Ken Niumatalolo of navy. Nebraska needs to be an option team and Ken is doing one hell of a job at navy
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Nebraska at this point is a program whose "big boy" status is officially extinct, and will be for the forseeable future. Pretty much all of their historic success was attributed to Tom Osbourne and his ability to not only have success with the option game, but also influence 75% of the high schools in the state to adopting the same offense. This created an assembly line of players in a talent deficient state that came in ready to play. A vast majority of these players were never NFL caliber, but Nebraska was able to win NC's based on sheer execution. Shit, look at Tommie Frazier as a prime example. Dude never sniffed the NFL, but was one of the greatest option QB's to ever play college football.
Unfortunately, once Osbourne left and future coaches switched to more modern offenses, the high schools in the state weren't so quick to adjust. Nebraska was forced to look out of state for the majority of its talent, and Lincoln isn't the most appealing destination for a good percentage of national prospects. The end result is what you've seen out of Nebraska football for the last 15 years....nothing but mediocrity.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Because they fired Frank Solich who was winning 10 games per season. Neither guy is Tom Osbourne and until a coach gets them back to their Glory Days- they will keep firing them
The same Frank Solich that has made Ohio a good football team year in and year out. We all overreact from time to time regarding change in a program, but sometimes change is not good. Plus they brought in Riley who does not bring much, other than likability, as a head coach.
I read through this article that documents the changes that Iowa and Washington State DID NOT make that has helped them be successful. Yes, sometimes firing a coach and completely changing a system is the only rational thing to do because if you wait to long you just dig yourself a bigger hole (see the end of Stansbury), but sometimes you need to keep your people in place for the most part and recommit to what brought you success in the first place.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Because they fired Frank Solich who was winning 10 games per season. Neither guy is Tom Osbourne and until a coach gets them back to their Glory Days- they will keep firing them
Something YOU need to take note of. You sound like ME there 34. Maybe you aren't completely hopeless.
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Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
It doesn't look like it is panning out for them. Unless something happens they are going to have a eight lost season.
They will need a time machine and make them be the only team that is on TV, the only team that has money, and will need every power 5 school that is in a state that produces talent that Nebraska used to poach (FL, TX, Ca) to stop recruiting so well. They will also need to convince recruits that a Nebraska offer is not the same thing as an offer from KSU, Purdue, Illinois or Iowa.
Basically, they are the last Blockbuster store of college football. They simply fail to admit that they are no longer relevant on a national stage.
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Ive never once said we needed to fire Mullen. Not once. Neither has anybody else that Ive seen.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Ive never once said we needed to fire Mullen. Not once. Neither has anybody else that Ive seen.
Lol. You have encouraged him to leave on his own though. It's the SAME thing. Thankfully you are only a very vocal internet "expert" from a miniscule fraction of our fan base. Most of us are sane.
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you can get a fork and turn Nebraska over... they are done...
with conference realignment(s) and now that everybody is on TV every week, unless they "go all Auburn/Ole Miss", they won't be able to recruit (to Lincoln) well enough to be "relevant", again...
It'd take a Saban/Harbrough/Meyer type hire to (maybe) get em there... and that's what they are shootin' for.
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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Originally Posted by
HSVDawg
Nebraska at this point is a program whose "big boy" status is officially extinct, and will be for the forseeable future. Pretty much all of their historic success was attributed to Tom Osbourne and his ability to not only have success with the option game, but also influence 75% of the high schools in the state to adopting the same offense. This created an assembly line of players in a talent deficient state that came in ready to play. A vast majority of these players were never NFL caliber, but Nebraska was able to win NC's based on sheer execution. Shit, look at Tommie Frazier as a prime example. Dude never sniffed the NFL, but was one of the greatest option QB's to ever play college football.
Unfortunately, once Osbourne left and future coaches switched to more modern offenses, the high schools in the state weren't so quick to adjust. Nebraska was forced to look out of state for the majority of its talent, and Lincoln isn't the most appealing destination for a good percentage of national prospects. The end result is what you've seen out of Nebraska football for the last 15 years....nothing but mediocrity.
Nebraska will always be able to lay claim to the greatest college football team of all time, the 1995 team. So they have that.
And a team is never extinct, they'll just have to get the right guy. They have potential. If you've done it once, you can do it again. They are just going to have to find a guy that aligns with 'Nebraska' and can somehow find another recrootin niche. I think they need to find an elite defensive coach personally.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Lol. You have encouraged him to leave on his own though. It's the SAME thing. .
I havent said one word to Dan Mullen. I have not once said he needed to be fired- so your post is bullshit.
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Originally Posted by
Taog Redloh
And a team is never extinct, they'll just have to get the right guy. They have potential. If you've done it once, you can do it again. .
You just gave fans at Army and Minnesota chills of hope.
Nebraska will never be what they were- just like Wichita State will never be a baseball power again
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
I havent said one word to Dan Mullen. I have not once said he needed to be fired- so your post is bullshit.
LOL, the truely hilarious thing is you actually believe what you wrote there. I'll say this, if I was a totally disinterested third party you would be highly entertaining!
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
You just gave fans at Army and Minnesota chills of hope.
Nebraska will never be what they were- just like Wichita State will never be a baseball power again
I guess I assumed too much by thinking practicality would be taken for granted.
Big difference in Nebraska and Army in regards to program potential in the modern day game. I can't believe I really have to point this out.
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Originally Posted by
TUSK
you can get a fork and turn Nebraska over... they are done...
with conference realignment(s) and now that everybody is on TV every week, unless they "go all Auburn/Ole Miss", they won't be able to recruit (to Lincoln) well enough to be "relevant", again...
It'd take a Saban/Harbrough/Meyer type hire to (maybe) get em there... and that's what they are shootin' for.
It also took a Saban hire to get Alabama there too. Just sayin'.
Tennessee is in that same boat with Nebraska. It can and will happen....just has to be the right guy.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
You just gave fans at Army and Minnesota chills of hope.
Nebraska will never be what they were- just like Wichita State will never be a baseball power again
Nebraska is perhaps the highest profile victim of the change in College football offenses in the last 10 years. They used to be able to get a bunch of corn fed local boys to play up front at will. They can still do that. What they can't do is still make use of those guys and a few national speed guys to run the hell out the of traditional option game. I think they will be back once they adapt. They have everything else you need.
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Originally Posted by
Taog Redloh
I guess I assumed too much by thinking practicality would be taken for granted.
Big difference in Nebraska and Army in regards to program potential in the modern day game. I can't believe I really have to point this out.
You made the blanket statement- not me
Saban... Meyer...nor anybody close to it is walking into Lincoln ever again. They no longer have the cakewalk to get by Oklahoma and win the Big 8 like they used to. It's a new era and they just dont have the appeal anymore
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