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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    Benito is rooming with Simmons and is recruiting for the dogassed Rebs
    Apparently, MSU has some guys that aren't currently committed to us, recruiting for MSU as well. That's the word.

    I don't think who someone rooms with is a huge issues. These kids hang out together & congregate. It's not like they hunker down in their room with their roommate. I don't see this as a factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BossDawg View Post
    There has to be some way to get evidence of this if it's that well known. I'm not pointing fingers at you t45fixer....but, how is it that UMiss is doing what they are doing in recruiting, so many people know about it, and yet no one can get any solid evidence of their shenanigans?

    I'm not saying UMiss ISN'T getting bold, because I believe they are doing some pretty shady stuff. However, I just can't understand how so many people know about it, yet we can't take advantage of it. Hire PIs like they did...something.
    Because the NCAA doesn't really seem to bother with people who cheat unless they are extremely careless OR turn themselves in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BossDawg View Post
    There has to be some way to get evidence of this if it's that well known. I'm not pointing fingers at you t45fixer....but, how is it that UMiss is doing what they are doing in recruiting, so many people know about it, and yet no one can get any solid evidence of their shenanigans?

    I'm not saying UMiss ISN'T getting bold, because I believe they are doing some pretty shady stuff. However, I just can't understand how so many people know about it, yet we can't take advantage of it. Hire PIs like they did...something.
    You haven't spent much time in Waybo have you. The family in question here would make almost any of the wildest ass reality shows on TV look tame. Just trust us on this one. Also we aren't the ones that have turned them in on anything this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Apparently, MSU has some guys that aren't currently committed to us, recruiting for MSU as well. That's the word.

    I don't think who someone rooms with is a huge issues. These kids hang out together & congregate. It's not like they hunker down in their room with their roommate. I don't see this as a factor.
    I know om tells metcalf and jones to help recruit aj and Simmons, but I always wonder how sincere that pitch is... I mean they'd be encouraging a player as good or better then themselves to go where they are. That could lead in trying to get someone to a school that they could potentially have to back up

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    You can either trust me on this or not don't really care. He goes by and picks up payroll check. Whether he actually earns every dime or not I can't say or what the amount is. Any big purchases? No. However he doesn't work in any of the gas stations. Oops did I say that.

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    The room the is a lie. They all have their own room

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    Quote Originally Posted by t45fixer View Post
    You can either trust me on this or not don't really care. He goes by and picks up payroll check. Whether he actually earns every dime or not I can't say or what the amount is. Any big purchases? No. However he doesn't work in any of the gas stations. Oops did I say that.
    Oh I trust you 100%. I'm just bewildered at how so many people know what's up with the way they're hauling in these big recruits yet nobody can seem to get any legit evidence of it.

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    Only evidence I can give on the kid is that he picks up a payroll check on friday. Don't know the amount but he goes to school. So the only work could be weekend work and in the summer. And this work would be out on there farm, but I imagine it's for year around whether he does anything or not. It would take PI's and lawyers to prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BossDawg View Post
    There has to be some way to get evidence of this if it's that well known. I'm not pointing fingers at you t45fixer....but, how is it that UMiss is doing what they are doing in recruiting, so many people know about it, and yet no one can get any solid evidence of their shenanigans?

    I'm not saying UMiss ISN'T getting bold, because I believe they are doing some pretty shady stuff. However, I just can't understand how so many people know about it, yet we can't take advantage of it. Hire PIs like they did...something.
    The best way to combat it is to do it ourselves. However...................Bracky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t45fixer View Post
    It would take PI's and lawyers to prove it.
    That's exactly what UMiss did when Jackie was skinning their hides. I just feel like there's some way, well, to put it bluntly, take those assholes down by doing some of the dirty work for the NCAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BossDawg View Post
    That's exactly what UMiss did when Jackie was skinning their hides. I just feel like there's some way, well, to put it bluntly, take those assholes down by doing some of the dirty work for the NCAA.
    We could do that but it would also start World War III. And we don't have the army to fight back.

    And to be honest I'm not sure that we really need to. The truth is they had a once in a lifetime class three years ago and it worked out for them. Is that sustainable for them? Their recruiting rankings since then have suggested probably not.

    I think the biggest thing WE need to do is get back to is being the team that plays with Relentless Effort- which I haven't seen a lot of the past year and a half. I know people may not want to hear it, but that's what I see. I don't know why we got away from that, and I don't really care- but we need to get back to it rather than waste time trying to tattle on Ole Miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    We could do that but it would also start World War III. And we don't have the army to fight back.

    And to be honest I'm not sure that we really need to. The truth is they had a once in a lifetime class three years ago and it worked out for them. Is that sustainable for them? Their recruiting rankings since then have suggested probably not.

    I think the biggest thing WE need to do is get back to is being the team that plays with Relentless Effort- which I haven't seen a lot of the past year and a half. I know people may not want to hear it, but that's what I see. I don't know why we got away from that, and I don't really care- but we need to get back to it rather than waste time trying to tattle on Ole Miss.
    I would certainly hope we had an army to fight them back. I just don't believe UMiss is as untouchable as a lot of people think. Either way I agree with playing with relentless effort. That and start playing the same game UMiss is playing. I feel that alone might lift Dan's spirits a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BossDawg View Post
    I would certainly hope we had an army to fight them back. I just don't believe UMiss is as untouchable as a lot of people think. Either way I agree with playing with relentless effort. That and start playing the same game UMiss is playing. I feel that alone might lift Dan's spirits a bit.
    I don't think they are untouchable either- they are definitely being investigated and I think something will happen to them. Now, it won't be the death penalty or enough to satisfy our fans probably.

    As far as us having an army to fight them back- that's why so many of our fans are down on Bracky. You don't win WW II with Neville Chamberlain in charge. You need Winston Churchill. Until we revamp our compliance dept., it is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BossDawg View Post
    I would certainly hope we had an army to fight them back. I just don't believe UMiss is as untouchable as a lot of people think. Either way I agree with playing with relentless effort. That and start playing the same game UMiss is playing. I feel that alone might lift Dan's spirits a bit.
    I'll just say that if UNM skates even with Tunsil's stepfather spilling his guts and telling the NCAA where every body is buried relative to Tunsil's recruitment and the mode of operation up there then I will just start considering them totally untouchable by the NCAA. Its one thing for Auburn to skate on the Cam Newton deal when EVERYONE circled the wagons in that ordeal but with Tunsil's stepdad totally breaking ranks there should be NO logical way the Bears are not up sh*t creek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I'll just say that if UNM skates even with Tunsil's stepfather spilling his guts and telling the NCAA where every body is buried relative to Tunsil's recruitment and the mode of operation up there then I will just start considering then totally untouchable by the NCAA. Its one thing for Auburn to skate on the Cam Newton deal when EVERYONE circled the wagons in that ordeal but with Tunsil's stepdad totally breaking ranks there should be NO logical way the Bears are not up sh*t creek.
    Then there's the Saunders' deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Then there's the Saunders' deal
    I think that is a preview of what is to come for Ole Miss. I guarantee you whatever ULL was doing was on a much smaller scale than whatever Ole Miss was doing.

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