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12-01-2015, 05:07 PM
#161

Originally Posted by
OdaMaeBrown
Yes, currently almost all the SEC schools are in better shape than Miami. That doesn't make them better jobs. Miami would be top 5 in the SEC. Bama, GA, FL, LSU would be the only ones ahead with Aub and Miami about the same level.
If my Aunt had balls she would be my uncle. Miami is not in the SEC. Miami is not going to be in the SEC. They are third fiddle in their own state, and they're always going to be, because they are a commuter school.
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12-01-2015, 05:11 PM
#162

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Does it matter? Maybe he's a guy that likes to build instead of maintain. Maybe Megan wants to get back with the golf channel. Or maybe he thinks 7 years is as long as you need to stay at one place and he's looking for change of scenery.
The only thing that matters from a Mstate point of view, is that Dan clearly wants out. So, personally, I hope someone hires him and we can all move forward. There is a huge fallacy that the MSU job is a bad job. It's not. It's a tough job for sure, but with our conference, facilities, fan support, salary and recruiting bases it's one of the best 25 jobs in the country. I want a coach who wants to be here.
Well done. I want a coach that wants to be at MSU too.
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12-01-2015, 05:15 PM
#163
Banned
Interesting way of putting it that I haven't considered seen on the other board.
Mullen may be holding back in recruiting because he wants to keep his name clean when a big job opens up. He's purposefully limiting our football talent in order to make him nice and shiny for a big boy job. Hell he may be the driver of the turn yourself in crowd, throwing Redmond and Mirando to the wolves.
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12-01-2015, 05:19 PM
#164

Originally Posted by
Blackout
Interesting way of putting it that I haven't considered seen on the other board.
Mullen may be holding back in recruiting because he wants to keep his name clean when a big job opens up. He's purposefully limiting our football talent in order to make him nice and shiny for a big boy job. Hell he may be the driver of the turn yourself in crowd, throwing Redmond and Mirando to the wolves.
Now you're getting it!
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12-01-2015, 05:25 PM
#165

Originally Posted by
Blackout
Interesting way of putting it that I haven't considered seen on the other board.
Mullen may be holding back in recruiting because he wants to keep his name clean when a big job opens up. He's purposefully limiting our football talent in order to make him nice and shiny for a big boy job. Hell he may be the driver of the turn yourself in crowd, throwing Redmond and Mirando to the wolves.
No. The NCAA contacted us about the violations before we knew about it. Mirando lied about what he knew and got a show cause. We had no choice but to cut ties with him. Compliance handles the penalties, including Redmond, not the atheletic department. We have hashed many compliance issues over the years, including outside the football program and before Mullen was hired. You are grasping for straws.
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12-01-2015, 05:35 PM
#166

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
No. The NCAA contacted us about the violations before we knew about it. Mirando lied about what he knew and got a show cause. We had no choice but to cut ties with him. Compliance handles the penalties, including Redmond, not the atheletic department. We have hashed many compliance issues over the years, including outside the football program and before Mullen was hired. You are grasping for straws.
I would really like to know how an agency as incompetent as the NCAA came upon this investigative knowledge that Redmond got some articles of clothing and a used car discount. That's some high priority news there.
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12-01-2015, 05:36 PM
#167
........Bracky called them up and told them what he had heard.
"When opportunity knocks, ask for two forms of ID, because it is probably just trouble in disguise" - Tickle #Discovery Channel
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12-01-2015, 05:37 PM
#168

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
No. The NCAA contacted us about the violations before we knew about it. Mirando lied about what he knew and got a show cause. We had no choice but to cut ties with him. Compliance handles the penalties, including Redmond, not the atheletic department. We have hashed many compliance issues over the years, including outside the football program and before Mullen was hired. You are grasping for straws.
I thought it was posted here by several people in "the know," including Coach34, that Mirando was fired over some kind of sex scandal, not NCAA violations?
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12-01-2015, 05:38 PM
#169
Junior Member

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
From what I've heard that one is bullshit.
From what I am hearing like all the other jobs he has interviewed for Penn State, Va Tech, _____, it is a "leaked" list of coaches they want.
Also, their facilities are garbage as well as their fans.
Go DAWGs and HAILSTATE!!!
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12-01-2015, 05:42 PM
#170
Banned
I hope i am just missing the sarcasm. Otherwise this is just stupid.

Originally Posted by
Blackout
Interesting way of putting it that I haven't considered seen on the other board.
Mullen may be holding back in recruiting because he wants to keep his name clean when a big job opens up. He's purposefully limiting our football talent in order to make him nice and shiny for a big boy job. Hell he may be the driver of the turn yourself in crowd, throwing Redmond and Mirando to the wolves.
So Mullen is making himself look better for bigger jobs by not recruiting as well and as a result not winning as much? Damn that is some logic right there.
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12-01-2015, 05:46 PM
#171

Originally Posted by
maroonmania
I would really like to know how an agency as incompetent as the NCAA came upon this investigative knowledge that Redmond got some articles of clothing and a used car discount. That's some high priority news there.
They were contacted by an outside source about our possible violations. Investigation started from there.
ETA. The NCAA was notified of possible violations BEFORE we even signed Redmond.
Last edited by Really Clark?; 12-01-2015 at 05:50 PM.
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12-01-2015, 05:49 PM
#172

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
They were contacted by an outside source about our possible violations. Investigation started from there.
That being DeVinner or someone associated with Ole Miss.
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12-01-2015, 06:04 PM
#173

Originally Posted by
OdaMaeBrown
So Mullen is making himself look better for bigger jobs by not recruiting as well and as a result not winning as much? Damn that is some logic right there.
It's will james...what do you expect...
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12-01-2015, 06:08 PM
#174

Originally Posted by
ScoobaDawg
It's will james...what do you expect...
I didn't realize that's who that was. I wonder if he still thinks it's the correct approach to look breaking ball and adjust to the fastball.
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12-01-2015, 06:10 PM
#175
I agree with those that say that Miami is not as good a job at MSU. I've heard someone compare Miami to Tulane with a really good football program. Maybe that's off some- I don't really know.
BUT what I do know about Miami is they have a trump card in the form of their NFL alumni. They may be only able to pay a coach 2 million- but I guarantee you that Irvin, Sapp, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and ETC. are probably going to have no problem helping the cause of the U- and I imagine between all of them they could easily scrounge up another 2 million a year for whomever their coach is. They're an extremely loyal group towards their alma mater.
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12-01-2015, 06:13 PM
#176

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
I agree with those that say that Miami is not as good a job at MSU. I've heard someone compare Miami to Tulane with a really good football program. Maybe that's off some- I don't really know.
BUT what I do know about Miami is they have a trump card in the form of their NFL alumni. They may be only able to pay a coach 2 million- but I guarantee you that Irvin, Sapp, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and ETC. are probably going to have no problem helping the cause of the U- and I imagine between all of them they could easily scrounge up another 2 million a year for whomever their coach is. They're an extremely loyal group towards their alma mater.
Yeah but they are letting it be known that they can and would pay $4MIL a year for their guy. That's a big step up for them.
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12-01-2015, 06:15 PM
#177

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
I agree with those that say that Miami is not as good a job at MSU. I've heard someone compare Miami to Tulane with a really good football program. Maybe that's off some- I don't really know.
BUT what I do know about Miami is they have a trump card in the form of their NFL alumni. They may be only able to pay a coach 2 million- but I guarantee you that Irvin, Sapp, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and ETC. are probably going to have no problem helping the cause of the U- and I imagine between all of them they could easily scrounge up another 2 million a year for whomever their coach is. They're an extremely loyal group towards their alma mater.
They're loyal in the sense that they like glorifying "Da U", but those guys haven't done anything for that program to this point. You'd think they would be awash in state-of-the-art facilities thanks to all of their alumni, but it hasn't happened. No reason to think it's going to change all of a sudden.
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12-01-2015, 06:16 PM
#178

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
I agree with those that say that Miami is not as good a job at MSU. I've heard someone compare Miami to Tulane with a really good football program. Maybe that's off some- I don't really know.
BUT what I do know about Miami is they have a trump card in the form of their NFL alumni. They may be only able to pay a coach 2 million- but I guarantee you that Irvin, Sapp, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and ETC. are probably going to have no problem helping the cause of the U- and I imagine between all of them they could easily scrounge up another 2 million a year for whomever their coach is. They're an extremely loyal group towards their alma mater.
That's a great analogy. Tulane used to beat LSU just like Miami used to beat Florida State and Florida.
That's not happening anymore. Let me repeat: Miami WILL NEVER again surpass FSU or Florida. I don't care if Nick Saban goes there. The school is not a good fit for being a major football program in the current college environment.
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12-01-2015, 06:20 PM
#179

Originally Posted by
Bubb Rubb
They're loyal in the sense that they like glorifying "Da U", but those guys haven't done anything for that program to this point. You'd think they would be awash in state-of-the-art facilities thanks to all of their alumni, but it hasn't happened. No reason to think it's going to change all of a sudden.
True- but they were all extremely vocal about getting Golden fired. I suspect that they have some clout.
And I don't really know what Miami is planning on doing going forward, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they have plans down the road to build their own stadium like Tulane did and like South Alabama is trying to do.
I'm not exactly sure why they don't have better facilities, but my guess is they feel like they can just keep their boys home no matter what for the most part, so they don't have to doll things up as much. Whether that's reality or not is up for debate. But my guess is they're probably pretty arrogant.
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12-01-2015, 06:21 PM
#180

Originally Posted by
Political Hack
That's a great analogy. Tulane used to beat LSU just like Miami used to beat Florida State and Florida.
That's not happening anymore. Let me repeat: Miami WILL NEVER again surpass FSU or Florida. I don't care if Nick Saban goes there. The school is not a good fit for being a major football program in the current college environment.
I think he just meant that both are private schools. The caveat is Tulane WITH a really good football program. Which they never really have had there aside from 1998.
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