I'm not one to cite "sources", but here's why y'all need to chill in my opinion....

[Bama_Dawg]

CD, I agree, we all need to chill for now. Staff changes are necessary, but I don't think Mullen wants out of Starkville. He, like any of us, would take a look at a step up in the world, and I have no fault with that. That being said, I think Dan also knows that he has built the foundation for a successful program. So the only way to leave would be for something better (higher paying/more prestigious).

IMO, what we saw after the Egg Bowl was a distraught Mullen. He had to keep his calm for the press (including the guy from farmersonly.com), but I'm sure inside he was eaten up. Any coach worth his salt would be. He just didn't know what to do or say, so it came out as "distant."

My biggest fear, and it happens often to us, is that we will play poorly in the Bowl game. Dan will have to find a way to motivate these guys (Dak's last game in DWS didn't seem to do it) to really take out frustration on an opponent.

[SDDawg]

randy I thought dans gone by Wednesday and we can focus on rebuilding?

It's not Wednesday yet, I'm willing to accept it's a misunderstanding though as CD said. Also willing to accept that you're an ass.

[JohnnyQuid]

Youth or nerves, he has been our head coach for 7 years...
What team has he beaten that was really any good?
Mullen has only beaten 1 team that finished ranked in the Top 20 at the end of the season...

0-7 vs Bama
1-6 vs LSU
1-3 vs Freeze
1-3 vs A&M

honestly an sec win is a good win. and again youre using only 4 yrs for tsun. u act like we should sleep walk thru this conference.

alabama and lsu are what they are. go Google #of players currently in nfl off each sec team. I'd love to beat all these teams every other year it's just not reality

[BrunswickDawg]

And I won't hold laughing about the kick or the press conference against him. Dan took a "shit happens" attitude to a "shit happens" situation. I have no doubt our coaches had the team prepared. We had energy that first drive, and were clicking until Dak fumbled - and honestly until the pick 6. Something went against us at every key moment in that game. That shit happens. Happened to Bama against OM. After all the bounces going wrong all game we still had a chance late, and a bounce on a kick ends it.

What Dan has learned, and a bunch of y'all need to learn, is that you can't dwell on that shit or it will eat you alive. Laugh it off and move on. We had a good season, worked hard, made mistakes, grew as program, overcame some challenges, had some kids rise above expectations, and for the 7th straight year did better than everyone in the country (outside our fanbase) said we would. And Dan was right when he said that in the press conference. You learn from all of that, apply it to next year and get better.

[SDDawg]

honestly an sec win is a good win. and again youre using only 4 yrs for tsun. u act like we should sleep walk thru this conference.

alabama and lsu are what they are. go Google #of players currently in nfl off each sec team. I'd love to beat all these teams every other year it's just not reality

We should be winning about 1 out of 4 vs. LSU and Bama, that would be reasonable and respectable (winning your home game every other year), even if they're great. These 0-fer streaks have to concern even you.

The Freeze thing is overblown, it's one game off of .500. Dan does need to take it to his ass next year up in Oxford though, will be disappointed if he doesn't. They should be down next year...

[JohnnyQuid]

"At least it's not OM". Really, that's all you care about is what OM does? Well here's some food for thought....Dan is 1 out of 4 vs Freeze, and that 1 was pure luck! I don't care what OM does, because I'm a State grad. If you care about OM, then you should be out of your mind pissed off about the last 4 years! Dan is about to enter year 8, and HE HAS NEVER RECRUITED GOOD OFFENSIVE LINEMEN. He inherited good linemen. You cannot win/compete in the West if you cannot control the LOS. Enjoy this underachieving 8-4, because next year is going to be much tougher.

was meant for a bit of levity (the OM bit). guess I swung and missed.

one thing we can agree on is you can't be dominant in this league without very good linemen on both sides of the ball. I , like u, hope we get better on the offense side soon.

but I'm sorry. I'm not pissed off about the last 4 yrs. I thought 8-9 wins this year and we're in that range. we lost to ole miss.

if I was 20 I might be downright MAD as u say I should be. sorry if that doesn't make me a better state fan than you

[lastmajordog]

Well said!!

"Like it or not, for this 4 year stretch, our rival has owned our ass in head to head play. Primarily because they have done what it takes, right or wrong, to get the bigtime talent at the most critical positions to do what they want to do. We can't worry about them and whether or not the NCAA ever punishes them. We have to find a way to get better talent in our program. You can only sign so many 2 and 3 star players and coach them up before you have some major misses."

[JohnnyQuid]

It's not Wednesday yet, I'm willing to accept it's a misunderstanding though as CD said. Also willing to accept that you're an ass.

I am an ass, I couldn't help ****ing with ya a bit. nothing personal all in fun

[JohnnyQuid]

We should be winning about 1 out of 4 vs. LSU and Bama, that would be reasonable and respectable (winning your home game every other year), even if they're great. These 0-fer streaks have to concern even you.

The Freeze thing is overblown, it's one game off of .500. Dan does need to take it to his ass next year up in Oxford though, will be disappointed if he doesn't. They should be down next year...

I can get on board with all of this. we agree, finally. ha

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I spoke to someone very reliable yesterday. They told me point blank that the "Mullen wants out of Starkville" thing was a total joke and twisting of words. He said that Mullen had apparently told his agent he would be interested in talking to any "Big Name" programs (mentioning specifically UGA, FSU, USC types), but ONLY a big name program that could be a huge step up in his career.

This guy I spoke with said his agent got that word out, but some members of the media took only part of that, and claimed Mullen was "interested in leaving" period...which IS NOT the case. Therefore schools like Maryland, Virginia, etc., reached out to him as they should have thinking he "wanted out". So apparently Dan basically saying he wouldn't turn down an interview with a Top 5 ish program, got turned in to "Dan wants out".

From that point, our very own decided to believe everything they heard, and ran with it. Some even going as far as to say they could tell he wanted out, which according to this source, is completely untrue. He says Dan and Megan are totally happy in Starkville, but just like any of us, he is not going to say No to a conversation and interview with a Top program in the country. After all, coaches have to strike while their stock is high, or it may pass them by.

Anyway, that's what I was told. He even said that Dan seemed disappointed about the loss Saturday, but fired up about closing recruiting strong and winning the bowl game. Feels good about what he has coming back.

Take that for what it's worth. That is part of the reason that it pisses me off that some loud voices are trying to paint this as "Dan wants out", when it doesn't sound like it is at all true. And I don't want our fan base to jump on that wagon when there may be a totally other side to the story. If what my source says is true, there is zero reason to believe Dan wants out, & we should be supporting him while maybe pushing for staff changes...but not trying to run him off based on false info, and potentially hurting the program and recruiting in the process.

That's all I've got...I just want y'all to think for yourself. Don't believe everything someone pushes...and that includes me. I just feel confident that Mullen doesn't want out, so I'm not jumping to conclusions.

Accurate

[Thick]

One more thing I want to add. Last year, big games.....Bama/OM, you win, we are in the playoffs, we lost! This year, big games....Bama/OM, if you win, you win the west, if you just beat your rival it's Sugar Dawgs. We lost both games. Freeze has beaten Bama/MSU 2 straight years....big games. If some of you are so worried about OM and why they get all of the hype, it's because they win big games. Dan and MSU just beat the weaker teams. That's mediocrity in my book, and no one cares about shitty bowl games vs mediocre opponents.

[JohnnyQuid]

no one cares about shitty bowl games vs mediocre opponents.

the players who worked their ****ing ass off all year care. and I guess we've progressed from reading dans body language to full on telepathy of our entire fan base.

im being a smart ass but, people care.

eta: last year AU and A&M we both in top 10 if not top 5 when we beat them. those were pretty big ****ing games. don't give me they finished ranked here or there.

[SDDawg]

I can get on board with all of this. we agree, finally. ha

It was bound to happen... LOL

Insert reference about monkeys, typewriters, and Shakespeare.

[lastmajordog]

JWS was rolling and lost a game Dogs should have won in South Carolina. I think it was a turnover and the team lost and NEVER recovered playing or recruiting till Dan. I do hope Coach will make needed changes and hit recruit trail. I don't follow as closely as most of you guys but I can never remember feeling so good about a backup QB (Fitz), M. Deer, and several others. Now no doubt the line on both sides needs to be emphasized but it sure seems as though for our "down" year next year there are rays of sunshine which was not always the case in past years.....JMO

[SDDawg]

the players who worked their ****ing ass off all year care. and I guess we've progressed from reading dans body language to full on telepathy of our entire fan base.

im being a smart ass but, people care.

eta: last year AU and A&M we both in top 10 if not top 5 when we beat them. those were pretty big ****ing games. don't give me they finished ranked here or there.

I was a hot head on Sunday and said I wouldn't support the team. That was dead wrong, the players deserve support and that was the whiskey talking (actually didn't have any, but same effect). If this team wins a bowl game and gets to 9 wins, 19 wins over two seasons is some damn good football by any measure. These guys definitely deserve to go out with good fan support.

[fishwater99]

One more thing I want to add. Last year, big games.....Bama/OM, you win, we are in the playoffs, we lost! This year, big games....Bama/OM, if you win, you win the west, if you just beat your rival it's Sugar Dawgs. We lost both games. Freeze has beaten Bama/MSU 2 straight years....big games. If some of you are so worried about OM and why they get all of the hype, it's because they win big games. Dan and MSU just beat the weaker teams. That's mediocrity in my book, and no one cares about shitty bowl games vs mediocre opponents.

THIS....

[Thick]

[QUOTE=JohnnyQuid;462549]the players who worked their ****ing ass off all year care. and I guess we've progressed from reading dans body language to full on telepathy of our entire fan base.

im being a smart ass but, people care.[

I'm fine with you being a smart ass, no problem. Dan talked about winning championships. He's not talking about that anymore. I wonder why? Do you think it's because he can't win a big game to get to a championship? Do you think it's because Freeze owns his ass right now? Where's the fire and excitement that he used to have?

I personally think that he thought he would have been offered a dream job after last year. I think if he doesn't have a solid recruiting class, that the flame has burnt out. They say 10 years is about the length of a tenure at one school, and then it's time to move on. We might very well be looking at the beginning of the decline.

[ghostofjackie]

but but but but but ... Mullen should address all these internetz rumors. Maybe him and Scott should do the elephant walk on their approach to the podium to really show their solidarity and commitment to each other.

I could tell by how light he patted Dak's ass after that first fumble that he had one foot out the door. Usually he gives it a good slap enough to cause a slight "jiggle". This one just looked weak and un-invested.

[gtowndawg]

One more thing I want to add. Last year, big games.....Bama/OM, you win, we are in the playoffs, we lost! This year, big games....Bama/OM, if you win, you win the west, if you just beat your rival it's Sugar Dawgs. We lost both games. Freeze has beaten Bama/MSU 2 straight years....big games. If some of you are so worried about OM and why they get all of the hype, it's because they win big games. Dan and MSU just beat the weaker teams. That's mediocrity in my book, and no one cares about shitty bowl games vs mediocre opponents.

Exactly. I swear if anyone complains next year about M State not getting respect and the Ole Miss controlled media propping up Northern Miss I swear I'm going to lose it. To be the man, you've got to beat the man. Something Dan has rarely accomplished in 7 years.

[yjnkdawg]

I spoke to someone very reliable yesterday. They told me point blank that the "Mullen wants out of Starkville" thing was a total joke and twisting of words. He said that Mullen had apparently told his agent he would be interested in talking to any "Big Name" programs (mentioning specifically UGA, FSU, USC types), but ONLY a big name program that could be a huge step up in his career.

This guy I spoke with said his agent got that word out, but some members of the media took only part of that, and claimed Mullen was "interested in leaving" period...which IS NOT the case. Therefore schools like Maryland, Virginia, etc., reached out to him as they should have thinking he "wanted out". So apparently Dan basically saying he wouldn't turn down an interview with a Top 5 ish program, got turned in to "Dan wants out".

From that point, our very own decided to believe everything they heard, and ran with it. Some even going as far as to say they could tell he wanted out, which according to this source, is completely untrue. He says Dan and Megan are totally happy in Starkville, but just like any of us, he is not going to say No to a conversation and interview with a Top program in the country. After all, coaches have to strike while their stock is high, or it may pass them by.

Anyway, that's what I was told. He even said that Dan seemed disappointed about the loss Saturday, but fired up about closing recruiting strong and winning the bowl game. Feels good about what he has coming back.

Take that for what it's worth. That is part of the reason that it pisses me off that some loud voices are trying to paint this as "Dan wants out", when it doesn't sound like it is at all true. And I don't want our fan base to jump on that wagon when there may be a totally other side to the story. If what my source says is true, there is zero reason to believe Dan wants out, & we should be supporting him while maybe pushing for staff changes...but not trying to run him off based on false info, and potentially hurting the program and recruiting in the process.

That's all I've got...I just want y'all to think for yourself. Don't believe everything someone pushes...and that includes me. I just feel confident that Mullen doesn't want out, so I'm not jumping to conclusions.

Great Post CD and the best thing that has been posted since this rumor crap started. Bruce Feldman can be thanked for starting this. He doesn't like us, but likes Ole Miss. I wish people could chill on the alledged happy smile and the presser. That smile did not mean he was happy with what had just happened. It looked like that basically it meant well nothing else has gone our way, so it happens again. Smiling in those situations sometimes helps relieves stress when you actually want to cry. On the presser, it was a very emotional day and night, with Dak leaving , etc. and the media can ask some stupid questions sometimes. Mullen was not in a good mood after that game and the media didn't help. Have any of these people seen a presser after a Bama loss. Saban is not very friendly to the media, especially if they ask stupid questions. He can also be very blunt and sharp with his responses, if he does respond. Sometimes we can be our own worst enemies and don't even need Ole Miss to start something, but I know they are very happy about all this Mullen wants out stuff. They would love for him to leave and us to have to start all over.