I'm not one to cite "sources", but here's why y'all need to chill in my opinion....

[CadaverDawg]

I spoke to someone very reliable yesterday. They told me point blank that the "Mullen wants out of Starkville" thing was a total joke and twisting of words. He said that Mullen had apparently told his agent he would be interested in talking to any "Big Name" programs (mentioning specifically UGA, FSU, USC types), but ONLY a big name program that could be a huge step up in his career.

This guy I spoke with said his agent got that word out, but some members of the media took only part of that, and claimed Mullen was "interested in leaving" period...which IS NOT the case. Therefore schools like Maryland, Virginia, etc., reached out to him as they should have thinking he "wanted out". So apparently Dan basically saying he wouldn't turn down an interview with a Top 5 ish program, got turned in to "Dan wants out".

From that point, our very own decided to believe everything they heard, and ran with it. Some even going as far as to say they could tell he wanted out, which according to this source, is completely untrue. He says Dan and Megan are totally happy in Starkville, but just like any of us, he is not going to say No to a conversation and interview with a Top program in the country. After all, coaches have to strike while their stock is high, or it may pass them by.

Anyway, that's what I was told. He even said that Dan seemed disappointed about the loss Saturday, but fired up about closing recruiting strong and winning the bowl game. Feels good about what he has coming back.

Take that for what it's worth. That is part of the reason that it pisses me off that some loud voices are trying to paint this as "Dan wants out", when it doesn't sound like it is at all true. And I don't want our fan base to jump on that wagon when there may be a totally other side to the story. If what my source says is true, there is zero reason to believe Dan wants out, & we should be supporting him while maybe pushing for staff changes...but not trying to run him off based on false info, and potentially hurting the program and recruiting in the process.

That's all I've got...I just want y'all to think for yourself. Don't believe everything someone pushes...and that includes me. I just feel confident that Mullen doesn't want out, so I'm not jumping to conclusions.

[thf24]

I suspected as much. I feel like that should have been the first thought of any rational person. Unfortunate because it's perfect bait for the blowhards with an agenda that latch onto the out of context rumors and push it like it's fact. And if that hasn't made the boards unreadable enough over the past few days, you've also got the wannabe "insiders" claiming bullshit "sources" that are either just the same rumors already public or simply don't exist at all, making up shit in an attempt to cash in on that sweet, sweet internet cred if they happen to seem right in the end. Such is the nature of message boards and the internet though, I suppose.

[SDDawg]

I suspected as much. I feel like that should have been the first thought of any rational person. Unfortunate because it's perfect bait for the blowhards with an agenda that latch onto the out of context rumors and push it like it's fact. And if that hasn't made the boards unreadable enough over the past few days, you've also got the wannabe "insiders" claiming bullshit "sources" that are either just the same rumors already public or simply don't exist at all, making up shit in an attempt to cash in on that sweet, sweet internet cred if they happen to seem right in the end. Such is the nature of message boards and the internet though, I suppose.

I'm fine with all of this and I'm willing to accept it at face value, but he's on video on Saturday night and we all saw it (sideline antics and post-game presser). Maybe he was just out of sorts, but he did not look like a guy that loves Starkville, was excited to close recruiting and to go win the bowl game. I hope this is all correct, it's better for everyone, but I'm a skeptic until he shows us these things.

[starkvegasdawg]

I don't want Mullen gone and that makes me feel better if what you heard was true. I do want some changes made to the staff, though, and I wish we could do something to recruit at a higher level. While there is certainly something to finding diamonds in the rough and coaching them up I would rather be coaching up a #10 ranked class than a #40 ranked class.

Was talking to another poster this morning when he swung by my desk while I was perusing office chairs on the internet and we were of the same opinion. Neither of us can think of one thing Felker adds to the program. He needs to be gone and Hughs reassigned to high school relations and recruiting coordinator. Don't let him near our safeties again. Then go out and hire someone that is an extremely good safeties coach and let him teach our guys how to be closer than 15 yards from the ball. Burn every piece of literature we have on hawk tackling and forget we ever attempted it. Never speak of it again. If Mullen doesn't want to fire Hevesy then reassign him and get another O line coach in there. Yes, I realize we had one of the top ranked offenses in the SEC but that was no thanks to our line. When you have a line that can't block and your favorite running plays is sending a 160lbs back up the middle or any called run when your other primary back gets tackled by a ladybug crawling up a blade of grass then you need a road grader line that can push people around.

[JohnnyQuid]

I never felt this shit about dan leaving or wanting to leave. just took what was said at face value I guess, and ofc dan would entertain offers from elite programs. be crazy not to.

can we stop this rumor mill shit (whether from media or our own) every year? even with all the inside info, "he gone", 100% dans gone, etc etc I just didn't buy it. for the most part I just tried to stay out of it cos it's a pointless argument.

TL,DR cadaver is spot on.

[Thick]

Rumors be damned!! He has been totally out coached in big games that we can win. He wants out if he can get a job at a bigger program. He needs to start PAYING ATTENTION to the one that provides him with the $4 million plus!! Win some big games, get to the ATL, then maybe a big program will have him at the top of their list!

[JohnnyQuid]

I'm fine with all of this and I'm willing to accept it at face value, but he's on video on Saturday night and we all saw it (sideline antics and post-game presser). Maybe he was just out of sorts, but he did not look like a guy that loves Starkville, was excited to close recruiting and to go win the bowl game. I hope this is all correct, it's better for everyone, but I'm a skeptic until he shows us these things.

randy I thought dans gone by Wednesday and we can focus on rebuilding?

[Bubb Rubb]

I spoke to someone very reliable yesterday. They told me point blank that the "Mullen wants out of Starkville" thing was a total joke and twisting of words. He said that Mullen had apparently told his agent he would be interested in talking to any "Big Name" programs (mentioning specifically UGA, FSU, USC types), but ONLY a big name program that could be a huge step up in his career.

This guy I spoke with said his agent got that word out, but some members of the media took only part of that, and claimed Mullen was "interested in leaving" period...which IS NOT the case. Therefore schools like Maryland, Virginia, etc., reached out to him as they should have thinking he "wanted out". So apparently Dan basically saying he wouldn't turn down an interview with a Top 5 ish program, got turned in to "Dan wants out".

From that point, our very own decided to believe everything they heard, and ran with it. Some even going as far as to say they could tell he wanted out, which according to this source, is completely untrue. He says Dan and Megan are totally happy in Starkville, but just like any of us, he is not going to say No to a conversation and interview with a Top program in the country. After all, coaches have to strike while their stock is high, or it may pass them by.

Anyway, that's what I was told. He even said that Dan seemed disappointed about the loss Saturday, but fired up about closing recruiting strong and winning the bowl game. Feels good about what he has coming back.

Take that for what it's worth. That is part of the reason that it pisses me off that some loud voices are trying to paint this as "Dan wants out", when it doesn't sound like it is at all true. And I don't want our fan base to jump on that wagon when there may be a totally other side to the story. If what my source says is true, there is zero reason to believe Dan wants out, & we should be supporting him while maybe pushing for staff changes...but not trying to run him off based on false info, and potentially hurting the program and recruiting in the process.

That's all I've got...I just want y'all to think for yourself. Don't believe everything someone pushes...and that includes me. I just feel confident that Mullen doesn't want out, so I'm not jumping to conclusions.

He could come out and say all of this himself and reaffirm his commitment, and let us know how unacceptable Saturday's effort was to him. That would help. Until then, I don't trust anyone's "sources." I only trust what I see with my own eyes - and that wasn't good last weekend.

[JohnnyQuid]

Rumors be damned!! He has been totally out coached in big games that we can win. He wants out if he can get a job at a bigger program. He needs to start PAYING ATTENTION to the one that provides him with the $4 million plus!! Win some big games, get to the ATL, then maybe a big program will have him at the top of their list!

some games he hasn't called plays like most of us wish he would. idk if it's youth or nerve's or just being bad. IDK

we didn't lose to ole miss cos of coaching, or "want to". so let's get that out the way.

and yea we pay him 4m+. it's the cost of business in the sec west.we win 18, maybe 19 games in 2 yrs. I'm fairly certain he's won some big games. get to atl? there's buncha sec west teams would love that. bama gonna bama. at least it's not tsun

[ShotgunDawg]

Good words Cadaver!

Pretty obvious that this is the situation. I be believed this since the rumors jumped the shark

[Liverpooldawg]

I spoke to someone very reliable yesterday. They told me point blank that the "Mullen wants out of Starkville" thing was a total joke and twisting of words. He said that Mullen had apparently told his agent he would be interested in talking to any "Big Name" programs (mentioning specifically UGA, FSU, USC types), but ONLY a big name program that could be a huge step up in his career.

This guy I spoke with said his agent got that word out, but some members of the media took only part of that, and claimed Mullen was "interested in leaving" period...which IS NOT the case. Therefore schools like Maryland, Virginia, etc., reached out to him as they should have thinking he "wanted out". So apparently Dan basically saying he wouldn't turn down an interview with a Top 5 ish program, got turned in to "Dan wants out".

From that point, our very own decided to believe everything they heard, and ran with it. Some even going as far as to say they could tell he wanted out, which according to this source, is completely untrue. He says Dan and Megan are totally happy in Starkville, but just like any of us, he is not going to say No to a conversation and interview with a Top program in the country. After all, coaches have to strike while their stock is high, or it may pass them by.

Anyway, that's what I was told. He even said that Dan seemed disappointed about the loss Saturday, but fired up about closing recruiting strong and winning the bowl game. Feels good about what he has coming back.

Take that for what it's worth. That is part of the reason that it pisses me off that some loud voices are trying to paint this as "Dan wants out", when it doesn't sound like it is at all true. And I don't want our fan base to jump on that wagon when there may be a totally other side to the story. If what my source says is true, there is zero reason to believe Dan wants out, & we should be supporting him while maybe pushing for staff changes...but not trying to run him off based on false info, and potentially hurting the program and recruiting in the process.

That's all I've got...I just want y'all to think for yourself. Don't believe everything someone pushes...and that includes me. I just feel confident that Mullen doesn't want out, so I'm not jumping to conclusions.

That jibes with everything I have ever heard that I consider reliable. Excellent and thanks for posting it.

[Bubb Rubb]

some games he hasn't called plays like most of us wish he would. idk if it's youth or nerve's or just being bad. IDK

we didn't lose to ole miss cos of coaching, or "want to". so let's get that out the way.

and yea we pay him 4m+. it's the cost of business in the sec west.we win 18, maybe 19 games in 2 yrs. I'm fairly certain he's won some big games. get to atl? there's buncha sec west teams would love that. bama gonna bama. at least it's not tsun

Why, because you say so? That statement is total lunacy. Ole Miss is a talented football team, but busted assignments, mental mistakes, missed tackles, poor playcalling - that's all coaching and effort (or "want to", as you put it).

[JohnnyQuid]

Why, because you say so? That statement is total lunacy. Ole Miss is a talented football team, but busted assignments, mental mistakes, missed tackles, poor playcalling - that's all coaching and effort (or "want to", as you put it).

I say that because 2 turnovers in the first quarter that directly lead to scores (1 an actual pick 6) aren't a recipe to win.

I don't claim to read facial expressions or body language for the fbi covering the give a **** of football coaches.

so yea, not cos I say so. sorry I'm a lunatic

eta: dans not innocent we didn't start well at all and some of that falls on him. can he stop dak from a fumble after a 12 yrd gain? and after down 14-0 dak didbwhat he didnt all year and forced a throw that he shouldnt. but we did win the 2nd half sth like 24-10? I mean it's not like we ****ing quit.

[ShotgunDawg]

some games he hasn't called plays like most of us wish he would. idk if it's youth or nerve's or just being bad. IDK

we didn't lose to ole miss cos of coaching, or "want to". so let's get that out the way.

and yea we pay him 4m+. it's the cost of business in the sec west.we win 18, maybe 19 games in 2 yrs. I'm fairly certain he's won some big games. get to atl? there's buncha sec west teams would love that. bama gonna bama. at least it's not tsun

Please tell you realize how much better Mullen's play calling is when we can block the defensive line? Please tell me you see that

[BulldogBear]

I suspected as much. I feel like that should have been the first thought of any rational person. Unfortunate because it's perfect bait for the blowhards with an agenda that latch onto the out of context rumors and push it like it's fact. And if that hasn't made the boards unreadable enough over the past few days, you've also got the wannabe "insiders" claiming bullshit "sources" that are either just the same rumors already public or simply don't exist at all, making up shit in an attempt to cash in on that sweet, sweet internet cred if they happen to seem right in the end. Such is the nature of message boards and the internet though, I suppose.

I don't want Mullen gone and that makes me feel better if what you heard was true. I do want some changes made to the staff, though, and I wish we could do something to recruit at a higher level. While there is certainly something to finding diamonds in the rough and coaching them up I would rather be coaching up a #10 ranked class than a #40 ranked class.

Was talking to another poster this morning when he swung by my desk while I was perusing office chairs on the internet and we were of the same opinion. Neither of us can think of one thing Felker adds to the program. He needs to be gone and Hughs reassigned to high school relations and recruiting coordinator. Don't let him near our safeties again. Then go out and hire someone that is an extremely good safeties coach and let him teach our guys how to be closer than 15 yards from the ball. Burn every piece of literature we have on hawk tackling and forget we ever attempted it. Never speak of it again. If Mullen doesn't want to fire Hevesy then reassign him and get another O line coach in there. Yes, I realize we had one of the top ranked offenses in the SEC but that was no thanks to our line. When you have a line that can't block and your favorite running plays is sending a 160lbs back up the middle or any called run when your other primary back gets tackled by a ladybug crawling up a blade of grass then you need a road grader line that can push people around.

thf24 - +1

I deliberately tried to stay out of these discussions the last few days. My emotions run high after the Egg Bowl.

Vegas - Agreed, be gone with Hawk Tackling!!! If any of you have been in section 19 this year and heard someone complaining loudly about the "Sparrow Tackling," that would be me!

[fishwater99]

some games he hasn't called plays like most of us wish he would. idk if it's youth or nerve's or just being bad. IDK

we didn't lose to ole miss cos of coaching, or "want to". so let's get that out the way.

and yea we pay him 4m+. it's the cost of business in the sec west.we win 18, maybe 19 games in 2 yrs. I'm fairly certain he's won some big games. get to atl? there's buncha sec west teams would love that. bama gonna bama. at least it's not tsun

Youth or nerves, he has been our head coach for 7 years...
What team has he beaten that was really any good?
Mullen has only beaten 1 team that finished ranked in the Top 20 at the end of the season...

0-7 vs Bama
1-6 vs LSU
1-3 vs Freeze
1-3 vs A&M

[Brahmabull]

Look, I don't know if he truly wants out or not, but I know that there is not a coach in the country that has to "tell" their agent they are willing to talk to top 5 jobs if any become available. That is b.s. If they have to tell their agent that, then they need to fire their agent. Now, do I think there is a lot of shit spewed by opposing agents to the media to stir stuff up? Absolutely! Do I think his agents floats stuff out to the media to get leverage for a pay raise and to gauge interest in his client? Absolutely!

Bottom line on Mullen is this IMO, he has done a great job for MSU. We have had the greatest modern day run in program history. He still has plenty of major flaws that cause him to struggle especially in big games. We, as a program, still have a major, major up hill climb on the recruiting front. Especially at positions were the talent in MS is thin, i.e. OL and QB. We have been lucky at QB in that Dak exceeded most people's expectations.

Like it or not, for this 4 year stretch, our rival has owned our ass in head to head play. Primarily because they have done what it takes, right or wrong, to get the bigtime talent at the most critical positions to do what they want to do. We can't worry about them and whether or not the NCAA ever punishes them. We have to find a way to get better talent in our program. You can only sign so many 2 and 3 star players and coach them up before you have some major misses.

[JohnnyQuid]

Please tell you realize how much better Mullen's play calling is when we can block the defensive line? Please tell me you see that

anyone's playcalling looks better when the qb has all day to throw. yes I'm aware

eta: dak up the gut vs good dlines isn't a good call. maybe sparingly. holloway vs bad dlines up the gut is a bad call.

I think those kinda things frustrate people

[Thick]

some games he hasn't called plays like most of us wish he would. idk if it's youth or nerve's or just being bad. IDK

we didn't lose to ole miss cos of coaching, or "want to". so let's get that out the way.

and yea we pay him 4m+. it's the cost of business in the sec west.we win 18, maybe 19 games in 2 yrs. I'm fairly certain he's won some big games. get to atl? there's buncha sec west teams would love that. bama gonna bama. at least it's not tsun

"At least it's not OM". Really, that's all you care about is what OM does? Well here's some food for thought....Dan is 1 out of 4 vs Freeze, and that 1 was pure luck! I don't care what OM does, because I'm a State grad. If you care about OM, then you should be out of your mind pissed off about the last 4 years! Dan is about to enter year 8, and HE HAS NEVER RECRUITED GOOD OFFENSIVE LINEMEN. He inherited good linemen. You cannot win/compete in the West if you cannot control the LOS. Enjoy this underachieving 8-4, because next year is going to be much tougher.

[Jack Lambert]

I just don't know why he would want to leave 4 mill plus a year at a job he has a lot of job security to go coach at Maryland. Over 20 years at state he is going to make a lot of money. Now I could see him leaving for USC type of job, better chance for NC. I also think the SEC put down the Mullen to Ga. I just don' think the SEC wants Schools robbing Head Coaches directly from other SEC schools.

He better get some O-Lineman to go with his skill players. He also needs to change Defensive Backfield coaches. We have been getting lighted up for several years now.