Bad cops in Oxford ??

[JohnnyQuid]

Not defending the cop, but if he was trying to get him out of the stadium and the guy refused, either the cop walks away or restrains him in a way that keeps anything from escalating into something major.

This guy's wife is saying ol? miss fans 2 rows above told the police the guy did something. Whatever that was... somebody was getting removed peacefully or not!

The thing I am not in agreement with (only because I don't know the situation leading up to it nor can we see what is happening... was he trying to get something out of his pocket. Etc) is the lack of medical attention he got while in jail for 4 hours!

no one would care if something happened and the cop needed to restrain him to prevent the incident from escalating. thst doesn't mean punching him in the face while hes being held by other cops till hes fuc*ed up. that's the issue

[RC3]

I am not pro-police violence, but there is a lesson here. If that ever happens to you, just go with the police. Resisting never works out well for those doing it and if the officers were in the wrong, you can always file a complaint later. Once a cop tells you that they're detaining you and they physically grab you, there's no talking your way out of it.

File a complaint. Lol

[SDDawg]

File a complaint. Lol

You can laugh all you want, but had the guy taken my advice he would not have ended up on the hospital with a broken orbital socket and eye damage. Sometimes the "right" play isn't the smart one... all I'm saying. Once a cop puts their hands on you, you're going to go with them so fighting is not a smart play.

[Leroy Jenkins]

I am not pro-police violence, but there is a lesson here. If that ever happens to you, just go with the police. .

SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS!!

Sorry but.... no.

[Coach007]

no one would care if something happened and the cop needed to restrain him to prevent the incident from escalating. thst doesn't mean punching him in the face while hes being held by other cops till hes fuc*ed up. that's the issue

He was hit 2 times.... we dont know if he kicked the cop... or what. That's all anybody is saying. Once we know then we can take that and determine what's what. However, what we do know is that he didn't get any medical attention at all while in police custody. That's not on the cop, that's on the police station as a whole.

But making assumptions about what happened and didn't happen leading up to the 2 punches is not warranted.

[sleepy dawg]

I'm not choosing sides here, so don't take it as I have. In watching the video, the man did not do anything to warrant physical restraint from the police, and particularly not a beating.

The first question that pops into my mind is, if this person was innocent of any wrongdoing, why did the people around him not interject on his behalf and inform the cops that the person they were looking for was a few rows up as the wife says?

Because people are afraid they'll receive the same abuse with no justice. I know I am.

[sleepy dawg]

He was hit 2 times.... we dont know if he kicked the cop... or what. That's all anybody is saying. Once we know then we can take that and determine what's what. However, what we do know is that he didn't get any medical attention at all while in police custody. That's not on the cop, that's on the police station as a whole.

But making assumptions about what happened and didn't happen leading up to the 2 punches is not warranted.

I don't need to make assumptions to see what I know is abuse of power.

[starkvegasdawg]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Zq0EBrQRw

Like Chris Rocks says..."If a cop has to come after you, he's bringing an ass whooping with him."

[Coach007]

I don't need to make assumptions to see what I know is abuse of power.

Oh... so now police can not defend themselves?

[ILOATHEBears]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Zq0EBrQRw

Like Chris Rocks says..."If a cop has to come after you, he's bringing an ass whooping with him."

The video I saw showed this guy gut punch an officer and the. He was taken down. He caused a huge seen in the stands and he was surrounded by all OM fans so his own turned on him

[Bucky Dog]

I agree we see two minutes and don't know what happened before. But that little red headed pink cop took some spcheap shots at that dude. Yes if they are telling you to leave, the. Get out and talk to them downstairs. Did the guy need to punch him in the face with other cops standing right by him? Hell no! And to me it appears the other cops looked a little stunned that he hit the dude and one appears to grab the cop.

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

When you mix a cop on a power trip and what looks to be an intoxicated fan that is resisting - it's never good.

[fader2103]

I was told that he spit in the cops face at one point. Also in the video you can see the guy grabbing a cop 2 different times. As a cop I believe the cop was justified if he spit on him. You never know what someone has, and yes if someone spits on you. You can use force on him. Second if someone grabs you. You better knock their d*ck in the dirt. Also with the thing about him not getting medical treatment. He was asked for medical but refused

[TUSK]

I dunno bout you fellers... but had I been (the fan) in that situation, I might have gotten a good talkin' to... I may have even been escorted outta the stadium.... There's even an outside chance I may have spent the afternoon/eve in the pokey...

but I do know this, there would not be a picture of me with stitches over my eye and a busted eye socket goin' viral on the 'net....

[sleepy dawg]

Oh... so now police can not defend themselves?

You and I clearly have different definitions of defending oneself. Cops do need to protect themselves. That was beyond protecting of oneself. It didn't matter what happened before.

[sleepy dawg]

I dunno bout you fellers... but had I been (the fan) in that situation, I might have gotten a good talkin' to... I may have even been escorted outta the stadium.... There's even an outside chance I may have spent the afternoon/eve in the pokey...

but I do know this, there would not be a picture of me with stitches over my eye and a busted eye socket goin' viral on the 'net....

...yet... keep thinking it can't happen to you.

[Coach007]

You and I clearly have different definitions of defending oneself. Cops do need to protect themselves. That was beyond protecting of oneself. It didn't matter what happened before.

Right now there are many rumors. One being he tried to get the cops gun. Another is he hit the cop and the cop hit him back. What happened before does matter. Always has, always will.

[solodawg]

Nothing happens to cops for a complaint. Even in situations like this, which happen daily, nothing of any value will happen. At worst they'll be suspended, only to end up in a different town in a few weeks... And until the masses stop making excuses for them, their behavior will continue to get worse.

That's bullshlt!! I worked in the business for over 30 years at a few PD's and SO's. My last stint I supervised around 180 officers. Very few times did I have a valid complaint on one of my officers assaulting a citizen. Now there were scuffles when an officer was trying to effect an arrest at which time that subject refused to comply with the officers command. Procedure is to be polite and ask them to go with you, maybe it was jail or maybe it was just to leave the premises. If subject refuses, you politely place your hand on subjects shoulder and try to lead him out of there. At that time if he pulls or jerks away he has officially resisted arrest. Use what ever force is necessary to make the arrest while keeping in mind the safety of the officer and those innocent individuals around the scene. I retired after 30 years in LE and I am so glad that I'm not having to witness what's going on now with all this hate being perpetrated by our potus.

[Spiderman]

This appeared on my Facebook timeline. I've removed the FB profile name and pic to protect the innocent **

I know a bunch of young cops. Even played in a state wide benefit golf tourny for a fallen officer. 90% are good ole boys. 10% are young, steroided up rage heads on a power trip.

They are also the ones who talk like they just graduated law school, but the only higher education they have had is the law enforcement academy. They are always exiting a vehicle instead of getting out of a car.

[RC3]

You can laugh all you want, but had the guy taken my advice he would not have ended up on the hospital with a broken orbital socket and eye damage. Sometimes the "right" play isn't the smart one... all I'm saying. Once a cop puts their hands on you, you're going to go with them so fighting is not a smart play.

He would also likely be facing bogus criminal charges (unless he actually committed a crime) and not be one the receiving end of a nice settlement from an upcoming lawsuit. I know you are trying to say that you aren't dismissinf the cops behavior. But you are. If you aren't doing anything wrong, you shouldn't be arrested and humiliated. Under no circumstances was that officer justified in the way he acted