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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Throw out Saban's first year. This is going to be his 7th SEC West title. AU has 1 and LSU has 1. So no one is really winning the west but Saban.
I really hope this is the year he bolts for NFL or another program. The pressure of that job has to be eating at him. His wife has made a lot of comments as well, so I hope he gets another natty this year and gets the F outta here.
That's been what I had been thinking about all week leading up to this game. Or that somehow Oklahoma and OK state join the sec and Auburn/Alabama can go to the East.***(only mild sarcasm)
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We're 1-3 in the west right now and are likely going into next weekend as an underdog.
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I find it very reassuring that a message board host has got our next football coach....we don't need an AD. Just go to message boards and you can find replacements for both Mullen and Cohen. Wonder how long it will be before Howland will be in the crosshairs. Mississippi State athletics have never been in such excellent hands. Sure wish they had been around about 40 or so years ago. We might have won multiple NC in the big three sports by now.
"Live every day like it was your last one.....And one day you're gonna be right"..Willie Nelson
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
18 5 stars vs 1 5 star. Bitching about play calling is low hanging fruit and nowhere near the root of the problem. Bitching about defensive alignments is low hanging fruit and nowhere near the root of the problem. Bitching about the talent of our running backs and Hev's offensive line recruiting is hitting the nail on the head.
We can solve this, but pressure must be applied at the correct spots. Bitching out of frustration about play calling and alignments is a big waste of hot air until the root of the problems are solved.
This in spades. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken s***. We flat out got out-talented and made mistakes, coaching and playing-wise, we couldn't afford to make.
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Originally Posted by
AROB44
I find it very reassuring that a message board host has got our next football coach....we don't need an AD. Just go to message boards and you can find replacements for both Mullen and Cohen. Wonder how long it will be before Howland will be in the crosshairs. Mississippi State athletics have never been in such excellent hands. Sure wish they had been around about 40 or so years ago. We might have won multiple NC in the big three sports by now.
Our AD didn't pick our new basketball coach
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Our AD didn't pick our new basketball coach
But he probably made or was involved in getting the contract for Addias.
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C34 - you are off the rails holmes. Dakota is not JC, Mullen will produce another guy like that down the line. Get out of the whiskey and dust yourself off, you'll feel better after we throttle Arky.
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Originally Posted by
basedog
But he probably made or was involved in getting the contract for Addias.
Which has what to do with anything if that is even true in the first place? And that actually makes getting Ray worse on his part.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
We tried to hit Bear on a slant. We tried to hit Bear on a fade. Then Dak got 2 yards on 3rd down. It's 4th and 1 and we let our best player try to get in the endzone. Same play Mullen ran with Tebow a hundred times. Same play Mullen ran to beat Ole Miss in the Egg Bowl. I would rather run Dak straight at them then try and run wide. Need better O-linemen. That's what it comes down to.
Fournette couldn't run right at Bama but we think Dak can?
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Which has what to do with anything if that is even true in the first place? And that actually makes getting Ray worse on his part.
Well, Addias had everything to do with Howland's hiring. Ray was a bad hire, not every hire by AD's are home runs.
Do u have issues with our AD?
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
But let me reiterate- nobody is saying "Fire Mullen". We just have to accept we will never win the West with him as coach
Ok, so why the hell not fire him?
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Originally Posted by
BoomBoom
Ok, so why the hell not fire him?
Because he is doing about as well as you can do at a school like MSU. Have to hope LSU and Alabama go down a bit when they lose their coaches in the coming years.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
A) Stands made the program so toxic nobody wanted it
B) I talked to a friend of Whittingham's yesterday. He talked to Kyle Tuesday. I know 100% that he would take it
My Cousin just told me that Mike Tomlin is interested and if offered would 100% take the job as well. It's totally legit they are in the same fantasy football league. *
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Originally Posted by
basedog
Well, Addias had everything to do with Howland's hiring. Ray was a bad hire, not every hire by AD's are home runs.
Do u have issues with our AD?
I'm fine with Scott, but I'm saying if he had as much clout with Adidas as you surmise and STILL hired Ray, that's really bad on his part.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
Fournette couldn't run right at Bama but we think Dak can?
From everything that happened in that game, the issue you choose to bring up is running Dak on 4th and 1? That was the least of our problems. I was more pissed off at the 12 men on the field the very next play that got Bama out of the hole.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
But let me reiterate- nobody is saying "Fire Mullen". We just have to accept we will never win the West with him as coach
So you don't want him fired, but you also don't want him as our coach? (You said you prefer he leave)
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
So you don't want him fired, but you also don't want him as our coach? (You said you prefer he leave)
This could be accomplished by Dan taking another job.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
This could be accomplished by Dan taking another job.
Exactly my point. He would prefer dan no longer be our coach.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
Exactly my point. He would prefer dan no longer be our coach.
So? 7 years is a lifetime. If he does move on i think it would be better for all. Weve seen enough out of him to know that he's hit the ceiling. Barring a miraculous finish to this season, he will have squandered the 2 most talented teams he's going to field at MSU. And before some of you say " we gone croot better", what the hell has Dan done recently to give you that idea? So we should just give him a lifetime coaching gig hoping that the Orange Bowl trip pays off 3 years from now?
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
Exactly my point. He would prefer dan no longer be our coach.
As long as Dan will make adjustments and correct his mistakes (quit making the same mistakes over & over), I want him as our coach. But his awful personnel decisions and inability to stop jamming the square peg into the round hole with certain play calls, has me concerned. If he stops trying to progress, and instead takes a "this is me, I've got it figured out" approach...I want him to leave. Because he doesn't have it figured out...there is lots of room to grow. We still beat ourselves too much. And we never "execute at a high level" despite him saying it 10 billion times. Too many repetitive mistakes by players & coaches, and too many fundamental mistakes, to claim he's done growing. He's definitely grown to this point throughout his career here...and as long as he continues, I never want to lose him. But if he stops growing as a coach...bye. And that should be everyone's expectation in my opinion. Not too much to ask at all.
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