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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmostPositive View Post
    How would you feel about white Ole Miss players boycotting until the UM Chancellor is fired for taking down the state flag?
    Uh...that wouldn't work.

    This will only be effective if the majority are on the players' side. In that case, pressure will continue to build against the president. If the majority are not on their side, pressure will build against the players.

    This isn't mob rule, LOL. People have the freedoms to make decisions for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmostPositive View Post
    How would you feel about white Ole Miss players boycotting until the UM Chancellor is fired for taking down the state flag?
    Only the white players, lol? That would send a very distinct message. That is not what we have going on in Missouri.

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    Just to be clear, if some white Ole Miss players tried a boycott because of the flag being taken down, they would be run off with the quickness. And they would be blasted publicly by media outlets all over the country.

    But yeah, apparently if a few players decide to 'demand' the resignation of the chancellor, regardless of the validity of their stand or how many people side with them, the chancellor must comply. Lulz.

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    There are so many really nasty comments about this situation across the internet. The HailState FB group has some of the worst that I've seen. As a Bulldog, reading them makes me sad for humanity. I would hate to know that our football team and recruits are reading this stuff. The guy who sits next to me at DWS made a comment that I can't believe. It's absolutely amazing that a situation that doesn't have a thing to do with MSU, can bring out such poisonous rhetoric from our fans. Hopefully, my eyes have failed me and those comments were made by Rebels, not Bulldogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmostPositive View Post
    How would you feel about white Ole Miss players boycotting until the UM Chancellor is fired for taking down the state flag?
    I am not sure, but this isn't just white players at Mzzou. It's the entire team and coaching staff. There is significant support in the faculty as well. It's uncomfortable for sure, and I have some sympathy for the President, but he has let this situation fester and has failed to instill confidence in the University community. I admire people willing to take this kind of stand for their beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PendingTransaction View Post
    There are so many really nasty comments about this situation across the internet. The HailState FB group has some of the worst that I've seen. As a Bulldog, reading them makes me sad for humanity. I would hate to know that our football team and recruits are reading this stuff. The guy who sits next to me at DWS made a comment that I can't believe. It's absolutely amazing that a situation that doesn't have a thing to do with MSU, can bring out such poisonous rhetoric from our fans. Hopefully, my eyes have failed me and those comments were made by Rebels, not Bulldogs.
    I agree- what are people so afraid of here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randyholloway View Post
    I am not sure, but this isn't just white players at Mzzou. It's the entire team and coaching staff. There is significant support in the faculty as well. It's uncomfortable for sure, and I have some sympathy for the President, but he has let this situation fester and has failed to instill confidence in the University community. I admire people willing to take this kind of stand for their beliefs.
    Exactly. It is isn't just "black" football players - this is a huge movement throughout the university.

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    It's mob rule. You can try to gussy it up any way you wish, but that is what it is.

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    Well, I guess it just all depends on what "mobs" you sympathize with...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmostPositive View Post
    It's mob rule. You can try to gussy it up any way you wish, but that is what it is.
    No. It really isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Well, I guess it just all depends on what "mobs" you sympathize with...
    You missed the point entirely. The nature of the particular mob is irrelevant. Liberals are so used to deciding issues along identity politics lines that they routinely let principle get trumped by convenient affinities.

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    Utopia cannot exist. This is about the reality that "shit happens" is not being taught to today's youths growing up. It's reinforced when whining always wins the day. The loudest get what they want because the normal don't feel like dealing with it any longer. It corrupts everything.

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    By the way, does anyone think Pinkel is just tickled to have his best players sit out the rest of the season? You think that's his preference, to field an uncompetitive team because of a campus politics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmostPositive View Post
    By the way, does anyone think Pinkel is just tickled to have his best players sit out the rest of the season? You think that's his preference, to field an uncompetitive team because of a campus politics?
    The whole team is doing it, not just a few players.

    And anyway, this is precisely why they're doing it...because it has a chance to cause change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    The whole team is doing it, not just a few players.

    And anyway, this is precisely why they're doing it...because it has a chance to cause change.
    Does the President deserve to lose his job?

    The Puritans caused change too, they got rid of all those witches. Did that make it right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackout View Post
    Does the President deserve to lose his job?

    The Puritans caused change too, they got rid of all those witches. Did that make it right?
    No, not necessarily.

    But the football team isn't forcing anything. They have no power to actually make a decision. If the people aren't with them, they face consequences themselves. You guys act like the football team determines whether the president keeps his job.

    If people aren't behind the president, then he shouldn't be president and this is a way to try to push that to happen more quickly. If people are behind him, then this won't work. It's that simple.

    If everyone at your job strikes, does the boss automatically lose his job? Of course not.

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    Also, yes, he might deserve to lose his job. If it's already gotten to this point, at the very least he hasn't handled the situation well.

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    If you had a three-year-old willing to hang by his neck until you change your ice-cream-for-breakfast policy, you wouldn't be forced to do anything... you could let him suffocate. Ditto for a teenager who stops speaking to the rest of the family until he gets a car... just let him wreck domestic tranquility for months on end.

    Or you can cave to pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmostPositive View Post
    You missed the point entirely. The nature of the particular mob is irrelevant. Liberals are so used to deciding issues along identity politics lines that they routinely let principle get trumped by convenient affinities.
    hey positive, you would be a welcomed guest on the political board. solid post, would like to see more of your stuff if you are so inclined.

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    Thanks... I may do that... I can get overly argumentative at times and I don't like generating ill will among fellow State alumni, so I would have to make myself tone things down a bit

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