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Is there any way we could get Howland as the lead recruiter on Derrick Brown when he visits for the Egg Bowl??
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Originally Posted by
Dawg-gone-dawgs

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Who is this scumbag son of a bitch??
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Originally Posted by
MSUDawg4Life
I feel bad for Indiana. They used to be relevant.
Yep back when they had a coach who would kick your ass and I mean literally.
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Could someone tell us who the ********** is and post some replies we gave?
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Originally Posted by
MSUDawg4Life
I feel bad for Indiana. They used to be relevant.
I vaguely remember Indiana being relevant...then again I'm 52...
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I seriously doubt anybody watched us play during the Ray years, to form an opinion of our facilities or fan support. They are just assuming that since we are MSU we would be lacking in facilities and fan support.
And pulling support probably did quicken the exit of Ray and entrance of Coach Howland. Which I for one is grateful.( I kept my seats, but didn't attend very many games.)

Originally Posted by
PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE
The no fan support point is a completely valid observation as far as recent history is concerned, & a direct result of all the people who quit on Mississippi State basketball when the going got tough. Same ones who now consider themselves heroes who saved the program by pulling their support & sticking it to the administration for personal grievances. Any fan who thinks they deserve credit for abandoning their team in order to influence the new hire deserves just as much credit for the lowly perception of our basketball program. Perception doesn't give a shit about how much fan support we had in 2011. Hence why we must be cheating.
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Originally Posted by
K9 Avenger
I vaguely remember Indiana being relevant...then again I'm 52...
Yea, I remember, didn't they have some coach that used to throw chairs across the gym floor?
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Originally Posted by
Bothrops
Who is this scumbag son of a bitch??
Inside the Hall co-founder and editor.
Here is his email if anyone wants to send a courtesy email:
Contact: insidethehall@gmail.com
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Originally Posted by
YoungB
Thank you David Rula and Erick Dampier!
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Originally Posted by
K9 Avenger
I vaguely remember Indiana being relevant...then again I'm 52...
Indiana was awesome from the 70's through 90's. Then Bob Knight choked Neil Reed during practice while it was caught on tape. Knight got fired and now Indiana is a middle of the pack B1G school. It's been fifteen years since Knight got fired and IU has had 2-3 good years sprinkled in with about 12 shitty ones. Their only final four since then was with Knight's players.
Funny thing about Kansas and Indiana is they are both Adidas schools. Hey Indiana our Adidas is bigger than your Adidas. Who cares about your practice gym.
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Indiana doing what Indiana does... CHOKE!
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
Indiana doing what Indiana does... CHOKE!
Lol time to throw some chairs in Bloomington
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Originally Posted by
NYDawg
So much win in this post
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Originally Posted by
Bully13
Could someone tell us who the ********** is and post some replies we gave?
Click the links to see the replies
https://twitter.com/insidethehall/st...90691309027328
https://twitter.com/insidethehall/st...91908789604352
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Indiana was awesome from the 70's through 90's. Then Bob Knight choked Neil Reed during practice while it was caught on tape. Knight got fired and now Indiana is a middle of the pack B1G school. It's been fifteen years since Knight got fired and IU has had 2-3 good years sprinkled in with about 12 shitty ones. Their only final four since then was with Knight's players.
Funny thing about Kansas and Indiana is they are both Adidas schools. Hey Indiana our Adidas is bigger than your Adidas. Who cares about your practice gym.
I wouldn't call them a middle-of-the-pack B1G program. They haven't been, and probably won't ever again be, Indiana but I would still call them a top program; maybe not among the truly elite anymore, but the next step down. The only Big Ten programs I would say are clearly better as programs right now are Wisconsin and Michigan State. And that could change depending on coaches. Wisconsin may take a dip without Ryan, and Michigan State will find it very hard to maintain without Izzo. Ohio State has had a lot of success under Matta, obviously more than Indiana during that span, but it's pretty much all due to him. If both jobs were open, you'd have a tough time ranking OSU higher than Indiana.
Indiana's problem is that they haven't really made a great hire since Knight. Davis was an awful hire, and even he won a Big Ten title and made the national title game. Sampson looked to be building something special, but then got busted and the sanctions hurt them significantly. Crean is a good coach, but I wouldn't call him a great one...and after it took 4 years to build them back after the mess Sampson left, he now has a Big Ten title, two Sweet 16s, and he's set up for a very good year this year as well.
Again, they're not truly Indiana anymore, but they could still get back to the top relatively easily with the right hire. I would compare them to UCLA pre-Howland or to Michigan football pre-Harbaugh.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Yea, I remember, didn't they have some coach that used to throw chairs across the gym floor?
I watched a video yesterday of Howland throwing his jacket in the stands during a game..it was great!
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I can agree with that, Smoot.
When I think of the top teams in the B1G, I think of Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin and Indiana.
Indiana and Michigan are in that group based on their history. I don't think Indiana has done anything recently that gives them the right to complain about losing players to MSU though. Over the past couple of decades they haven't been much different from us at all. Today, I think we are in a much better position and the players can see that.
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Originally Posted by
defiantdog
Thank you David Rula and Erick Dampier!
And, the late Ken Jackson.
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Maryland is currently #3 and has a National Championship since Knight left. I'd rank the B1G programs like this.
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Ohio State
Michigan
Maryland
Indiana
Purdue
Illinois
Which pretty much puts Indiana as a middle-tier B1G school. You're drunk if you think Ohio State and IU are even the last 15 years.
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Originally Posted by
MSUDawg4Life
I can agree with that, Smoot.
When I think of the top teams in the B1G, I think of Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin and Indiana.
Indiana and Michigan are in that group based on their history. I don't think Indiana has done anything recently that gives them the right to complain about losing players to MSU though. Over the past couple of decades they haven't been much different from us at all. Today, I think we are in a much better position and the players can see that.
Well, it's about like us talking about baseball history, honestly. We view our baseball program as still clearly being superior to many with similar or even better recent success than us.
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