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I thought UM looked OK. I was surprised Wallace ran as much as he did. By the time November rolls around he will likely be banged up pretty good if that continues. Treadwell was by far the most impressive of their "star" freshmen. Tunsil played well too. RK has a pretty good motor, but looked very raw to me. He will be a good player for them by seasons end, but the fact that he is starting right now (and playing all over the line) makes me think that their depth on the DL is poor. Their run defense looked average at best... a power run game will soften them up big time. I didn't see anything from UM last night that makes me think they'll beat us this year. If you stay disciplined and stick to your defensive assignment versus the read option you can have success against it, but you really need to get good play out of the D-line to shut it down. They looked like they had problems when Vandy rushed 5 or more. Looking at their schedule I see them rolling into Starkville with 5 wins - Vandy, SEMO, Idaho, Troy, and one of Arkansas and Mizzou. I don't think they can win @ Auburn, and wins over aTm, LSU, Bama, or Texas sure don't seem likely.
Gadzooks I am excited about tomorrow. I look forward to seeing the changes in our coaching philosophy and how that affects our play on the field. We have very good talent and depth. I really want to see our guys play fast and physical. Here's to hoping we set the tone for the season with a physical W tomorrow.
Hail State!
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Originally Posted by
smootness
I realize we will talk about them, and I do, too. It's just that there are clearly times among our fanbase when we seem far more concerned about them than we do our own program, which makes no sense to me.
6 of the top 7 threads on this board right now are about Ole Miss directly, and the other is a generic thread about one of the announcers from the Ole Miss game last night. Yes, they played last night so it's fresh on everyone's mind. But our game is tomorrow, and I think it would be far better in a lot of ways to focus more on us.
There are so many threads because they just played last night. On national TV. With no competing games on other channels. And it was the first game of the year. What else are we going to talk about, uniforms aGAIN? We've been talking about tomorrow's game for three months. Not a lot to talk about there. When our game kicks off, there will be nary a mention of Ole Miss for a period of time.
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Originally Posted by
Bubb Rubb
There are so many threads because they just played last night. On national TV. With no competing games on other channels. And it was the first game of the year. What else are we going to talk about, uniforms aGAIN? We've been talking about tomorrow's game for three months. Not a lot to talk about there. When our game kicks off, there will be nary a mention of Ole Miss for a period of time.
Shout out to Lil Sis.
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I do not like ole miss by damn. I do not like them Sam I Am.
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I don't give a shit if they never win again to be honest. Last night was entertaining, but all I saw was two average teams with two mediocre QBs and bad defenses.
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When Vandy wasn't blitzing, their D played alot like ours last year. Give up the 5-10 yard pass all the way down the damn field. Treadwell did make a couple of nice catches but most of his yards came when the coverage played 10 yards him and Wallace slung it out to him for an easy gain. If we do that shit tomorrow, it's gonna be a long damn day/season. There is no way to categorize either team that played last night as 'great'.
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Originally Posted by
Rick Danko
I know this is a MS State board but just wanted your opinions on this matter. Talked to a friend this morning, he asked me my opinion of the game and what I thought. I explained I thought Ole Miss had talent but were young, and Vandy gave them the game. Too many missed oppurtunities for turnovers and then playing too timid at the end cost them the game. When asked what my opinion was of the two teams, I stated both are in the bottom half of the league, probably bottom third.
He then tells me he talked to his buddy this morning (Ole Miss fan) and asked him his opinion. To paraphrase what he said, "That was 2 great teams and it came down to the wire, but the better team won out. I expect both in a bowl game this year."
Now don't get me wrong, the last part of the statement is most likely true, but to call that display 2 great teams, am I missing something here. Maybe it is my maroon glasses, but they both looked the part of mediocre football teams.
What are some of your opinions.
What makes it different this year is that for the first time in almost two decades both teams won't suck ass at the same time. Usually one team is better at the other's expense and it makes it easier for one team to gloat a little, and the other team to chalk it up to some factor coaching / talent / probation, whatever. Everybody has their place. It switches up in a couple of years, and life goes on.
We have both teams making strides right now. It's going to get testy. The competition is either going to make both teams better, or put somebody on probation. I hope its them and not us.
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I just dont see what you saw. I didnt see a terrible OM team like year before last, but I did see a team that had enough talent to play better than they did. Wallace's arm looked exactly as described prior to the season. He was accurate at times, and sometimes not, but he never looked sharp. His runs were good though.
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Originally Posted by
codeDawg
The competition is either going to make both teams better, or put somebody on probation. I hope its them and not us.
Well, we're on probation.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
Well, we're on probation.
well... shit. there goes that.
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OM will get better. They aren't going to be overly impressive on either side of the line of scrimmage, but they will be good enough to run their style of offense. After they get battered around in Sept and Oct, they will be better prepared for everyone else afterward, at least, expectation wise. Their wide receiving corps will only improve and that will get them bowl eligible, if Wallace stays healthy. But Wallace may not, and if he does what he did last night in the coming weeks, he'll get hurt.
They are wafer thin on the D-line and their O-line isn't very good for traditional SEC play. I think Nkemdiche will be a down lineman, or DE/DT, next year. He's very strong and hits the tackle hard, but I don't think he has the length to be a true DE. Too compact, I think he goes inside. Treadwell is a game changer and could steal all the light from Moncrief, but I think both will be stars for them, down the stretch. Ole Miss is a finesse team, and will live and die by it. I don't expect Wallace to be 100 percent healthy by Nov. That helps us.
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You sir will be damned to eternal hell fire for those kinds of comments........
I said the same thing this morning to some UM comrades of mine bout Nkemdiche and they came unglued. Yes, he had the 4th down conversion on the fake punt and made another tackle or two but Superman he was NOT. Is he going to be good, why yes of course he is but at this point he's FAR more hype than substance.
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Reality has always teased them. What I saw last night was a Vandy OT handle and contain #5 with success. He may be a great player down the road, but is he the #1 2013 recruit in reality? I wouldn't bet on it.
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Both of those teams last night were dogshit.
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Originally Posted by
Bothrops
Reality has always teased them. What I saw last night was a Vandy OT handle and contain #5 with success. He may be a great player down the road, but is he the #1 2013 recruit in reality? I wouldn't bet on it.
Ah, yes, it's fair to judge a true freshman by their performance in their first collegiate game.
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Originally Posted by
DawgInMemphis
I thought UM looked OK. I was surprised Wallace ran as much as he did. By the time November rolls around he will likely be banged up pretty good if that continues. Treadwell was by far the most impressive of their "star" freshmen. Tunsil played well too. RK has a pretty good motor, but looked very raw to me. He will be a good player for them by seasons end, but the fact that he is starting right now (and playing all over the line) makes me think that their depth on the DL is poor. Their run defense looked average at best... a power run game will soften them up big time. I didn't see anything from UM last night that makes me think they'll beat us this year. If you stay disciplined and stick to your defensive assignment versus the read option you can have success against it, but you really need to get good play out of the D-line to shut it down. They looked like they had problems when Vandy rushed 5 or more. Looking at their schedule I see them rolling into Starkville with 5 wins - Vandy, SEMO, Idaho, Troy, and one of Arkansas and Mizzou. I don't think they can win @ Auburn, and wins over aTm, LSU, Bama, or Texas sure don't seem likely.
Gadzooks I am excited about tomorrow. I look forward to seeing the changes in our coaching philosophy and how that affects our play on the field. We have very good talent and depth. I really want to see our guys play fast and physical. Here's to hoping we set the tone for the season with a physical W tomorrow.
Hail State!
Gadzooks has been called! Just kidding I'm ready for this game too. A lot of people think we're gonna get boat raced, I don't.
This team will play like it has something to prove after the way last season ended. I want to win this game and also have a good season bad because this a likeable group and they have the depth to do it.
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