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    Quote Originally Posted by AlSwearengen View Post
    Todd, wouldn't we pay considerably more than Fullerton? Also, branching out and having success at multiple baseball schools would have to help his resume as far as getting a head job.
    Probably. Baseball is THE sport at Fullerton. It just depends on what Dietrich wants to do- and him branching out would probably help him especially in light of what we saw happen to Raffo when he stayed hoping to get promoted.

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    Robert Woodward's bio. Looks like another good candidate, but not as good as Dietrich or Johnson.

    http://www.hokiesports.com/staff/woodard.html

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    This really does feel like a planned move. Since Cohen is talking about already having a new coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdog View Post
    This really does feel like a planned move. Since Cohen is talking about already having a new coach.
    Cohen I'm sure knew that Butch was looking/talking to Auburn and I'm sure Cohen is on the ball with this. This has been rumored for awhile so it's not like it's out of the blue or anything.

    We probably asked Butch to go through the fall with our guys and then leave after that.

    The question now is whether Cohen has actually officially hired someone or if they are still in the interview process.

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    Sweet baby Jesus, please let it be Wes Johnson. Power arms and teaching pitchers to throw harder. Enough of the traditional style of pitching coach. I wanna see MFers throwing in the 90s.
    It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22


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    Quote Originally Posted by MsStateBaseball View Post
    Sounds to me Cohen just hired someone.
    It's done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    Sweet baby Jesus, please let it be Wes Johnson. Power arms and teaching pitchers to throw harder. Enough of the traditional style of pitching coach. I wanna see MFers throwing in the 90s.
    It's not him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    It's not him.
    Dietrich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    Dietrich.
    Damn, he has a hell of a resume. Good young coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    Dietrich.
    That's what everyone that is reputable is saying.

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    I can confirm. Like my contact said he's a superb pitching coach and a hell of a recruiter. Expect more recruits from Southern California .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taog Redloh View Post
    Really? Never thought of that.

    You really need to cut it out with the pretentiousness, pal. It was a simple question. I think anybody with a brain knew I was asking for a link or some other type of tangible evidence, or at least something specific.

    ETA: Took out 'asshole'. Yes, I am actually trying to tone that down.
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    Your post makes me wonder whose goat you are holding. Poor goat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsStateBaseball View Post
    I can confirm. Like my contact said he's a superb pitching coach and a hell of a recruiter. Expect more recruits from Southern California .
    This is a great hire. I was on the Wes Johnson bandwagon, but this guy has been a great pitching coach & recruiting at the highest level in the game. This is a BIG BOY hire & one that only 5 or so programs in the country could make.

    Great job Cohen

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    This is a great hire. I was on the Wes Johnson bandwagon, but this guy has been a great pitching coach & recruiting at the highest level in the game. This is a BIG BOY hire & one that only 5 or so programs in the country could make.

    Great job Cohen
    Dietrich's track record is really good, but my question is how will he develop guys into power arms? Only because in California they seem to really like junk ball pitchers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Dietrich's track record is really good, but my question is how will he develop guys into power arms? Only because in California they seem to really like junk ball pitchers.
    I'm not worried about power vs junk ball. Just teach them to be effective. Maddux couldn't break a pane of glass but was a 300 win guy in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobcat91 View Post
    I'm not worried about power vs junk ball. Just teach them to be effective. Maddux couldn't break a pane of glass but was a 300 win guy in the league.
    He's an anomaly. It's probably easier for us to find someone that can throw 94-96 than it is to find someone with Maddux-esque movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Dietrich's track record is really good, but my question is how will he develop guys into power arms? Only because in California they seem to really like junk ball pitchers.
    I believe one of his players Thomas Eshelman was my Astros 3rd pick this year ( # 46 overall ) threw over 100 innings this year with 17 walks. Fastball in the 90-92 range with impeccable control. I would take one of those on the MSU teams every third year or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    He's an anomaly. It's probably easier for us to find someone that can throw 94-96 than it is to find someone with Maddux-esque movement.
    It's not easier to find someone that throws in the mid '90s that have control, command, and secondary pitches. Those guys tend to go pro out of high school. The majority of the power arms that do come to college have to develop a feel for pitching, either with their command and control similar to Dakota Hudson, or they have to develop secondary pitches. Jordan Sheffield for Vandy was a hard throwing kid out of high school who has been a spot starter and bull pen guy for them to this point because he doesn't have all the nuances of pitching.

    What I want in a pitching coach is someone that can identify mechanical flaws that effect a pitcher's control, command, and even velocity to an extent. Throwing in the mid '90s is something that comes natural for some, and for others, you are screwing up their mechanics by asking them to try to throw that hard. There are a few that have some mechanical alterations that end up picking up a few ticks on their fastball. Others simply take a while to grow into their bodies.

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    It is interesting that Jason Dietrich was a leading candidate for the Cal State Bakersfield head coaching job, and he pulled out of the running on August 26th. I think it is possible this has been in the works for quite some time.

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