Hearing Butch to be announced as new AU Baseball Coach

[ShotgunDawg]

Wes Johnson - Pitching coach at Dallas Baptist.

DBU has had more pitchers throwing 95 mph or better than most anyone in the country over the last 3 years, including TCU. He would open up a potential pipeline to TX recruiting.

Pretty much, he's known as one the top velocity producers in country. No brainer

[MsStateBaseball]

Johnsons resume looks good. He might have been on the Central Arkansas staff when we played them.

[MsStateBaseball]

And BTW, November 11th is signing day so we need someone within 2 weeks.

[War Machine Dawg]

Wes Johnson - Pitching coach at Dallas Baptist.

DBU has had more pitchers throwing 95 mph or better than most anyone in the country over the last 3 years, including TCU. He would open up a potential pipeline to TX recruiting.

Pretty much, he's known as one the top velocity producers in country. No brainer

I'd kill for this guy. Power arms play, regardless of the ball.

[Todd4State]

Butch can take this job at no cost. No buy out.

That's not to surprising. If he wants to go, it's best just to let him go.

Kentucky did something similar with Cohen when he came to us if I remember correctly.

[Todd4State]

I'd kill for this guy. Power arms play, regardless of the ball.

The ball has changed and we are bringing in the fences in right field probably. As you know, Cohen builds his team to the conditions- and those new conditions favor power arms even more than control guys more than ever.

[Todd4State]

Wes Johnson - Pitching coach at Dallas Baptist.

DBU has had more pitchers throwing 95 mph or better than most anyone in the country over the last 3 years, including TCU. He would open up a potential pipeline to TX recruiting.

Pretty much, he's known as one the top velocity producers in country. No brainer

I don't know what it is about Texas as a state, but they know how to throw gas.

[ShotgunDawg]

I don't know what it is about Texas as a state, but they know how to throw gas.

Yes, and if every Mississippi kid grew up with a picture of Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemens, Kerry Wood, Josh Beckett, etc on their wall, Mississippi kids would throw harder as well. In Texas, there is a culture of throwing hard, just like in Mississippi there is a culture of playing physical in football.

That being said, DBU throws more gas than TCU, A&M, Baylor, Texas, Tech, Rice, and Houston without attracting the same level of recruits as most of those. That should tell you all you need to know about Johnson.

He comes from the Ron Wolforth, Brent Strom, Derrick Johnson coaching tree. It would be a game changer in the SEC and a no brainier.

There are lots of good YouTube videos with the mentioned pitching coaches. It's worth your time watch them. Strom is the godfather and now the Astros ML pitching coach, but he made his name by having major input in the drafting and development of most of the St Louis Cardinals pitching staff and farm system.

[Todd4State]

Yes, and if every Mississippi kid grew up with a picture of Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemens, Kerry Wood, Josh Beckett, etc on their wall, Mississippi kids would throw harder as well. In Texas, there is a culture of throwing hard, just like in Mississippi there is a culture of playing physical in football.

That being said, DBU throws more gas than TCU, A&M, Baylor, Texas, Tech, Rice, and Houston without attracting the same level of recruits as most of those. That should tell you all you need to know about Johnson.

He comes from the Ron Wolforth, Brent Strom, Derrick Johnson coaching tree. It would be a game changer in the SEC and a no brainier.

There are lots of good YouTube videos with the mentioned pitching coaches. It's worth your time watch them. Strom is the godfather and now the Astros ML pitching coach, but he made his name by having major input in the drafting and development of most of the St Louis Cardinals pitching staff and farm system.

I've been a Derek Johnson fan for a long time.

[State82]

The ball has changed and we are bringing in the fences in right field probably.

Yep. Fence has already been moved in right. They were extending the outfield deck/walkway to the new fence last week. Couldn't tell how much they moved the fence in but I'm guessing 10'-15' or so.

[I seen it dawg]

The ball has changed and we are bringing in the fences in right field probably. As you know, Cohen builds his team to the conditions- and those new conditions favor power arms even more than control guys more than ever.

We've had power arms and haven't done shit with them.

[CadaverDawg]

We've had power arms and haven't done shit with them.

Yea. Stratton, Holder and 1 month of Girodo. Lindgren & Graveman could be in that group, but Lindgren was a head case with no control for a good portion of his career. Evan Mitchell, Woodruff, Routt, were wasted power arms that somehow got over their mental issues when they left MSU and are in the minors.

I'm sure there's a list of both good and bad examples. Not sure how much of that is on Butch good or bad...but I definitely dont see him as being irreplaceable. I'd prefer him stay, but I won't lose sleep if he goes. I think we can get another Top 10 pitching coach if he leaves...and I would say Butch is in the Top 10. Not number 1 or anything, but very good. The new seams + bad results last year has me wondering how he will adjust. But he's been around a while so I'm sure he will. I still see him as being a pitching coach, not a head coach. We'll see.

If he can have the same success with the Auburn staff, while not playing small ball and limiting his offense since Cohen won't be with him...he might surpass us one day, who knows. May even do it with the guys we would normally get from Alabama. I wouldn't mind him leaving nearly as much if he wasn't going to be so close. Recruiting and stuff.

[I seen it dawg]

He is going to have to develop players. And get players that can play right away which we haven't done a whole lot of. Will see if he can do that.

[CadaverDawg]

He is going to have to develop players. And get players that can play right away which we haven't done a whole lot of. Will see if he can do that.

Yep. Does he have the exact scholarship situation in Alabama as we have here? Or will his scholarship situation be better one state over? I don't keep up with that shit, just wondering if it's better or the same.

[BB30]

Ill take a Lefty that is 87-89 and spots 3 pitches up any day over a guy pumping mid upper that cant find the zone. Walks kill.

[Homedawg]

Yep. Does he have the exact scholarship situation in Alabama as we have here? Or will his scholarship situation be better one state over? I don't keep up with that shit, just wondering if it's better or the same.

Pretty much the same. No lottery.

[Political Hack]

Ill take a Lefty that is 87-89 and spots 3 pitches up any day over a guy pumping mid upper that cant find the zone. Walks kill.

That's a no brainer, but you need power arms too.

[I seen it dawg]

Ill take a Lefty that is 87-89 and spots 3 pitches up any day over a guy pumping mid upper that cant find the zone. Walks kill.

Innovative

[ShotgunDawg]

Ill take a Lefty that is 87-89 and spots 3 pitches up any day over a guy pumping mid upper that cant find the zone. Walks kill.

And I'll take the mid-upper 90s guy that throws strikes, with one off speed pitch, over your upper 80s lefty every day.

[smootness]

Yea. Stratton, Holder and 1 month of Girodo. Lindgren & Graveman could be in that group, but Lindgren was a head case with no control for a good portion of his career. Evan Mitchell, Woodruff, Routt, were wasted power arms that somehow got over their mental issues when they left MSU and are in the minors.

I'm sure there's a list of both good and bad examples. Not sure how much of that is on Butch good or bad...but I definitely dont see him as being irreplaceable. I'd prefer him stay, but I won't lose sleep if he goes. I think we can get another Top 10 pitching coach if he leaves...and I would say Butch is in the Top 10. Not number 1 or anything, but very good. The new seams + bad results last year has me wondering how he will adjust. But he's been around a while so I'm sure he will. I still see him as being a pitching coach, not a head coach. We'll see.

If he can have the same success with the Auburn staff, while not playing small ball and limiting his offense since Cohen won't be with him...he might surpass us one day, who knows. May even do it with the guys we would normally get from Alabama. I wouldn't mind him leaving nearly as much if he wasn't going to be so close. Recruiting and stuff.

I agree with some of what you said, but Woodruff, Routt, and Mitchell aren't exactly pitching phenomenally well. It took Routt 4 years to get out of rookie ball, and he was mediocre in A ball at 22 and in A+ at 23. Woodruff's numbers were decent last year, but he struck out only 71 in over 109 IP while giving up more than 1 hit/inning. He's still not pitching up to his real talent level. Evan Mitchell put up rough numbers (not a terrible ERA, but all his peripherals look really bad) in A+ at 23 after struggling in A ball at 22. None of those guys are success stories, and still none of them are pitching to their talent level.