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    I dont understand the NCAA sometimes

    You suspend Grier for a year for taking some OTC stuff you can buy at any supplement store (thats the report anyway)..... but Lil Nkem can take bong hits and nothing. One of these things are totally legal.. one is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    You suspend Grier for a year for taking some OTC stuff you can buy at any supplement store (thats the report anyway)..... but Lil Nkem can take bong hits and nothing. One of these things are totally legal.. one is not.
    One is considered a performance enhancer (Ligandrol) and one is a recreational drug that can be masked in a drug test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdog View Post
    One is considered a performance enhancer (Ligandrol) and one is a recreational drug that can be masked in a drug test.
    What OTC supplement is Ligandrol found in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by missouridawg View Post
    What OTC supplement is Ligandrol found in?
    There's no telling (assuming he is telling the truth) because the FDA does not regulate the supplement industry. Whatever company/supplement he points the finger at is about to be under full investigation.
    LFC YNWA

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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdog View Post
    One is considered a performance enhancer (Ligandrol) and one is a recreational drug that can be masked in a drug test.
    Wrong twice. Ligandrol was not the subance. Recreational drugs cannot be "masked" on these types of tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdog View Post
    One is considered a performance enhancer (Ligandrol) and one is a recreational drug that can be masked in a drug test.
    its being stated that it was not Ligandrol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    Wrong twice. Ligandrol was not the subance. Recreational drugs cannot be "masked" on these types of tests.
    Ligandrol is the substance that is being reported...
    LFC YNWA

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    Quote Originally Posted by missouridawg View Post
    What OTC supplement is Ligandrol found in?
    It's definitely not OTC. It's a drug that was first used with cancer patients to help with muscle deterioration. It's an androgen receptor modulator that is supposed to be cleaner than your typical anabolic steroid. Ligandrol is also a pill that doesn't effect your liver or balls as much when used in excess compared to most anabolic steroids. Sounds like Grier was built like a toothpick and needed to put on some muscle fast.

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    Let's just say that the supplement industry has been known to include some less than legal stuff in their formulations in the past.. (again, not saying that I necessarily believe Will Grier)
    LFC YNWA

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    Being told through UF that the substance is not Ligandrol. But won't be disclosed without Grier's consent.

    Marty SmithVerified account ‏@MartySmithESPN
    Spoke to UF. Reports that Will Grier ingested Ligandrol are incorrect. They also say UF won't disclose the substance without Grier's consent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs View Post
    Kevin Brockway ‏@gatorhoops
    Being told through UF that the substance is not Ligandrol. But won't be disclosed without Grier's consent.

    Marty SmithVerified account ‏@MartySmithESPN
    Spoke to UF. Reports that Will Grier ingested Ligandrol are incorrect. They also say UF won't disclose the substance without Grier's consent
    Fair enough. Maybe he will get out of it afterall..
    LFC YNWA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    You suspend Grier for a year for taking some OTC stuff you can buy at any supplement store (thats the report anyway)..... but Lil Nkem can take bong hits and nothing. One of these things are totally legal.. one is not.
    I don't understand my wife sometimes but I just accept it and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    Wrong twice. Ligandrol was not the subance. Recreational drugs cannot be "masked" on these types of tests.
    Leroy, I love your name but folks have been using diuretics since the beginning of drug tests.

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    And yes, you can "beat" drug tests... even advanced ones
    LFC YNWA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    I don't understand my wife sometimes but I just accept it and move on.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs View Post
    Kevin Brockway ‏@gatorhoops
    Being told through UF that the substance is not Ligandrol. But won't be disclosed without Grier's consent.

    Marty SmithVerified account ‏@MartySmithESPN
    Spoke to UF. Reports that Will Grier ingested Ligandrol are incorrect. They also say UF won't disclose the substance without Grier's consent
    I don't buy it..... what player doesn't go through the medical staff in these situations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    You suspend Grier for a year for taking some OTC stuff you can buy at any supplement store (thats the report anyway)..... but Lil Nkem can take bong hits and nothing. One of these things are totally legal.. one is not.
    Man that was some White Owls he tore up and put in there. Nothing to see here. **

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjoelner View Post
    Man that was some White Owls he tore up and put in there. Nothing to see here. **
    That second picture will have me chuckling til way after EB. How does the credit card ad go " That's priceless!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdog View Post
    It's definitely not OTC. It's a drug that was first used with cancer patients to help with muscle deterioration. It's an androgen receptor modulator that is supposed to be cleaner than your typical anabolic steroid. Ligandrol is also a pill that doesn't effect your liver or balls as much when used in excess compared to most anabolic steroids. Sounds like Grier was built like a toothpick and needed to put on some muscle fast.
    Does it have the same effect on your heart as anabolic steroids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Does it have the same effect on your heart as anabolic steroids?
    Any increase in testosterone for a prolong period of time will have an effect on your heart.

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