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    So which $4,000,000/ per year coach should finish last? One has to you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    A QB can't do it all by himself, no matter how good he is. I take it some of you aren't old enough to remember when Archie Manning was playing for the Saints.
    HA - hey Liver, I was an original brown bagger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    When you are replacing 3 offensive linemen and when two of them are playing out of their natural position (with one of those being the center) and a NFL running back if it's not a rebuilding year it's dang close. That doesn't include what we lost on defense.
    Then every year is a rebuilding year. Players finish out their eligibility or leave for the pros early every year. When you return a top college qb and return or upgrade your receiving corp, and have a lot of players on the the OL nad defense with a lot of experience, that's not really a rebuilding year. Had we recruited a little better on the offensive line and at RB, we'd be pretty good this year and this could have been our peak year rather than last year. We didn't, so we're not.

    But next year, when we lose Dak, Bear, Chris Jones, Redmond, which are players that you're not just going to replace, plus losing your other starting CB in Calhouna nd don't have one obvious replacement at CB much less two, and you're also losing your best OL, then you are rebuilding. Those are players that you can't just replace. Hopefully, with our schedule flipping and us getting better on the Oline, we won't have too big of a drop off and we can get to 7 or 8 wins again. That will be a real accomplishment, to get that many wins in a rebuilding year. If we get to 8 wins this year, that will certainly be understandable, but still a little disappointing considering how many pieces fell in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FISHDAWG View Post
    HA - hey Liver, I was an original brown bagger
    I never was a Saints fan but in Mississippi even back then you got to see a lot of them. Archie was good, but I seriously don't see how he lasted as long as he did. He got the crap beat out of him nearly every game. The team was awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Then every year is a rebuilding year. Players finish out their eligibility or leave for the pros early every year. When you return a top college qb and return or upgrade your receiving corp, and have a lot of players on the the OL nad defense with a lot of experience, that's not really a rebuilding year. Had we recruited a little better on the offensive line and at RB, we'd be pretty good this year and this could have been our peak year rather than last year. We didn't, so we're not.

    But next year, when we lose Dak, Bear, Chris Jones, Redmond, which are players that you're not just going to replace, plus losing your other starting CB in Calhouna nd don't have one obvious replacement at CB much less two, and you're also losing your best OL, then you are rebuilding. Those are players that you can't just replace. Hopefully, with our schedule flipping and us getting better on the Oline, we won't have too big of a drop off and we can get to 7 or 8 wins again. That will be a real accomplishment, to get that many wins in a rebuilding year. If we get to 8 wins this year, that will certainly be understandable, but still a little disappointing considering how many pieces fell in place.
    We lost the core of the line last year. Those guys had played a LOT of games and had been together a long time. If you are Bama and have ten 5 star linemen at all times then it might not be much of a drop. When most teams lose what we did on the line last year there will almost always be some sort of drop off. It takes time for them to learn to work together. Practice helps but there is no substitute for game experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaver View Post
    As of Nov 1. 2014, Kevin Sumlin "couldn't coach a lick" according to his fanbase.

    http://tamu.247sports.com/Board/20/C...-lick-32538312
    But there has been no debate he can recruit 5* athletes. They are full of them. We have to step up recruiting. No coach alive could possibly make the right calls needed every week for 3* talent to beat 4&5* talent. The margin for error is too small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMissJack View Post
    But there has been no debate he can recruit 5* athletes. They are full of them. We have to step up recruiting. No coach alive could possibly make the right calls needed every week for 3* talent to beat 4&5* talent. The margin for error is too small.
    TCU did a pretty good job last Saturday over Texas. And last year in the bowl game. I think some of your statement is true but only for the team's truly getting elite talent. But the margin for error in recruiting rankings is flawed with many teams as well. Teams constantly recruiting in the top 5-7 every year is going to be above the talent of the rest of the schools. But nobody is having to play against that type of talent every weekend either so a coach doesn't have to be perfect every weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgtini View Post
    This. Aeris may see some reduction in his PT if he has another moment like he did saturday.
    Yet we'll keep trotting shump out there after his goal line fumble able usm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogBear View Post
    A. Williams, inside 10 yard line

    D. Wilson, not sure if I remember where. Their side of the field.

    De'runnya fumbled around midfield after a decent little catch and run for a 1st down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FISHDAWG View Post
    I think we all can call it what it really is ... we're rebuilding this year and everyone wants to act like we still have last years team and last years expectations ... I was guilty of it myself but if you think objectively and look back to what we lost then there is no other conclusion .... Mullen will continue to make mistakes as will all coaches at that level, but make no mistake about it - very few programs can lose what we did and not call it a rebuilding year .... take a look at our expectations and record and it's actually not a bad "re-building" year as compared to years past
    Rebuilding? Yes, we lost OL but EVERY lineman starting has been in the program for AT LEAST 3 years. But here's the deal, we were supposedly rebuilding in 2013 when we got to 6-6 behind 2 OT wins in our last 2 games. So then we get one good year and we are right back to rebuilding again? Are we going to rebuild in every odd year? Will we be rebuilding next year with a new QB and the potential of losing multiple JRs going pro after this year. I think calling this year a 'rebuilding year' is a cop out myself. The only place we are really young is at RB and that's because Shumpert is not what we hoped he'd be and Holloway is a scat back at best. Safety is an issue as well but that is because of recruiting issues. We have guys playing the position that have been in the program they just don't have great natural ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgs View Post
    Yet we'll keep trotting shump out there after his goal line fumble able usm.
    In the open field, holding the ball at his hip no less. At least Aeris was in traffic and holding it high. Not to mention the best DE in the nation is who poked it out, instead of some no name CUSA player.
    It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22


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