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    Prescott's Physique: Foreshadowing for the Future?


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    I don't see it. We'll see what they list for his weight in this year's roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlabLoser View Post
    I don't see it. We'll see what they list for his weight in this year's roster.
    If you don't think Dak has lost weight (A) You're blind (B) Need to click the link and listen to Mike Detillier on OOB who has covered him since HS (C) Roster weights are as worthless as weights on women's drivers licenses

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    I'm not buying it either. I don't believe Detillier can look at Dak in a suit and tell he's slimmer than last year. Those three games we were more pass-centric in at the end of last year? We lost those games.

    You've got to run the ball well to win in this conference. For us, that starts with Dak.

    I understand Dak's passing will need to improve for the NFL, but Dak has been working on improving that anyway. He stills understands what makes our offense work and that's running the ball.

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    I'm a little concerned if we try to be a pass first team. You hit on all the reasons why it could be successful (experienced WR, etc.). However, that just doesn't seem to be Mullen's offensive philosophy/forte. Everything so far seems to be run first and when we get away from it we don't have good years. Think Tyler Russell's senior year. Plus in the back of my mind this has echo's of Relf's senior year when everyone said how much he worked to improve his footwork/passing. I hope we are still a run first team but rely on the RB to carry the load moreso than Dak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUDawg4Life View Post
    I'm not buying it either. I don't believe Detillier can look at Dak in a suit and tell he's slimmer than last year. Those three games we were more pass-centric in at the end of last year? We lost those games.

    You've got to run the ball well to win in this conference. For us, that starts with Dak.

    I understand Dak's passing will need to improve for the NFL, but Dak has been working on improving that anyway. He stills understands what makes our offense work and that's running the ball.
    He wasn't wearing a suit at the Manning passing academy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastMan View Post
    If you don't think Dak has lost weight (A) You're blind (B) Need to click the link and listen to Mike Detillier on OOB who has covered him since HS (C) Roster weights are as worthless as weights on women's drivers licenses
    Just look at the schedule poster. He is thinner.

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    Just an FYI, if you're not buying that Dak has trimmed down you are buying being 100% wrong. Now we can discuss if this means anything like passing more or running less but Dak has cut down and that's not even remotely debatable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    Just look at the schedule poster. He is thinner.
    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastMan View Post
    If you don't think Dak has lost weight (A) You're blind (B) Need to click the link and listen to Mike Detillier on OOB who has covered him since HS (C) Roster weights are as worthless as weights on women's drivers licenses
    Or (D) we need better pictures.

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    OK let's say Dak is slimmer. There is no way I think that signals a change in our offense. We were balls to the wall awesome last year. Dak played a B- game against Bama in Tuscaloosa. The defense laid a rotten egg in Oxford. Our DC checked out of our bowl game. That's about all you can say about negatives from last year. Our offensive strategy was never the problem. We put of something like the 6th best offensive numbers in all of SEC HISTORY.

    Maybe Dak worked extra hard on his conditioning and couldn't help but be leaner.

    I don't see that pointing to pass-first. Dak wouldn't need to be leaner for pass-first.

    Odds are better that Dak did in the offseason what Dixon did in his last collegiate offseason - and that's get in the absolute best shape he can possibly be in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastMan View Post
    Just an FYI, if you're not buying that Dak has trimmed down you are buying being 100% wrong. Now we can discuss if this means anything like passing more or running less but Dak has cut down and that's not even remotely debatable
    Come on, Beast. Dak's a workout warrior. He could be the same weight with less body fat. What you all think is "trimmed down" could be just a natural progression of his workouts and proper diet. I seriously doubt Dak weighs much less than he did last year if any at all.

    I don't believe it. None. Sorry bro.

    ETA:

    And if we change our offense to pass-first, we hand the SEC West championship to Auburn. Or Alabama. Just give it to them. Because they are going to run the ball.
    Last edited by MSUDawg4Life; 07-28-2015 at 12:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUDawg4Life View Post
    Come on, Beast. Dak's a workout warrior. He could be the same weight with less body fat. What you all think is "trimmed down" could be just a natural progression of his workouts and proper diet. I seriously doubt Dak weighs much less than he did last year if any at all.

    I don't believe it. None. Sorry bro.

    The name of the article is Prescott's Pysique. It's not "Dak lost 15 lbs". Dak's physique has changed. its a discussion about if the change in Pysique is a signal to anything.

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    1. Dak has slimmed his body up. Does that mean he weighs any less? Maybe not but he's done the work to be more flexible & not as bulky.

    2. We're never going to be a "pass first" team but will be closer to 50/50 run/pass ratio than we've ever been. We'd be foolish not to. Our identity won't change we'll still be physical, tough, hard nosed team but you'd be crazy not to take advantage of the QB & group of WR's we have on campus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastMan View Post
    The name of the article is Prescott's Pysique. It's not "Dak lost 15 lbs". Dak's physique has changed. its a discussion about if the change in Pysique is a signal to anything.
    Still, if he has added muscle and lost fat - which would change his physique - why would that signal a change to a pass-first offense? If anything, that would suggest preparation to run the ball to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    1. Dak has slimmed his body up. Does that mean he weighs any less? Maybe not but he's done the work to be more flexible & not as bulky.

    2. We're never going to be a "pass first" team but will be closer to 50/50 run/pass ratio than we've ever been. We'd be foolish not to. Our identity won't change we'll still be physical, tough, hard nosed team but you'd be crazy not to take advantage of the QB & group of WR's we have on campus.
    Pretty much sums up the discussion. Some people are acting like I said "Dak is now a weak feeble QB who will have to pass or he will get broken in half. Cancel the season MSU sucks".

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    Has nobody in this thread seen pictures of Dak from this summer?

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    it' s blatantly obvious that Dak has slimmed his torso CONSIDERABLY in the offseason... If you can't see that you are either blind or dumb

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUDawg4Life View Post
    Still, if he has added muscle and lost fat - which would change his physique - why would that signal a change to a pass-first offense? If anything, that would suggest preparation to run the ball to me.

    I'm really wondering what you read because let me quote some things from the article:

    "noticeably slimmed down dak"
    "changing his body"
    "trimmed down dak"
    "What does a body change mean for Dak as a QB"
    "body recomposition is a direct result of what scouts told him"
    "Changing body tells me he wants to be a more fluid and smooth in his athleticism... improving footwork which in turn helps accuracy"
    "If we're letting strengths of the offense dictate what we'll see it has to be more passing"
    "Dak decided to lose some weight and remake his body"
    "Signs point to Dak leading a more pass-centric offense"

    No where in that article did I ever mention pass first or present any change in Dak's body as a negative. If you don't think Dak took his NFL feedback and put that into his preparation for his senior year, I don't know what to tell you.

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    I like that article. I do think he's lost some weight to set himself up to be a more agile pocket passer. I also think that we will pass more as an offense for the reasons you stated (youth at RB and OL) but there could be some pitfalls. If we pass more, then we will have to protect more or get rid of the ball faster. I think if we can see the ball released in a more timely fashion rather than attempting to check down to a 3-4th route, we will improve. Dak needs to throw the ball into the 6th row more often.

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