Brandon Bryant ran a 4.25 40-yard dash

[engie]

Denzel is asked to play a different role than a WLB is in our system. I'm not worried about run stopping with Richie and Beniquez in the box. We're still not putting LBs in one-on-one with Fournette and we're certainly not putting them on islands with Hunter Henry.

Per year rushing stats against MSU.
2009 - 3.96 ypp, 18 tds allowed
2010 - 3.56 ypp, 11 tds allowed
2011 - 3.72 ypp, 15 tds allowed
2012 - 4.27 ypp, 16 tds allowed
2013 - 4.21 ypp, 17 tds allowed
2014 - 4.18 ypp, 17 tds allowed

One of these is not like the rest.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...y-diaz-defense

[Leroy Jenkins]

That 2010 team had 3 NFL LBs (Cam Law, KJ, Chris White) and 3 NFL DL (Cox, McPhee, Boyd) and 2 NFL DBs (Banks, Mitchell).

[paco]

The times are measured electronically. I wish he could run a 4.25. However, I assure you that Bryant's true time is NOT a 4.25. He may have been the fastest of those running but he is not a true 4.25. Add 0.10 to 0.15 and we'll have a closer time for his true speed.

[engie]

That 2010 team had 3 NFL LBs (Cam Law, KJ, Chris White) and 3 NFL DL (Cox, McPhee, Boyd) and 2 NFL DBs (Banks, Mitchell).

Cam Lawrence was a backup. Emmanuel Gatling was the 3rd starter at LB.

This 2015 defense has as much talent as we had then. And is much deeper. Cox, Boyd, Lawrence, and Banks were all 2nd year players in 2010 as well. Likening their "NFL talent" at the time is akin to doing to same for Gerri Green, Brandon Bryant, and Cory Thomas right now...

[Covercorner2]

The times are measured electronically. I wish he could run a 4.25. However, I assure you that Bryant's true time is NOT a 4.25. He may have been the fastest of those running but he is not a true 4.25. Add 0.10 to 0.15 and we'll have a closer time for his true speed.

Who cares? I think the point of this whole thread is to point out that a guy who many are hoping will step up this year at, arguably, our biggest question mark of a position, is the fastest and one of the most athletic guys on our team (at 205 lbs).

[DancingRabbit]

The times are measured electronically. I wish he could run a 4.25. However, I assure you that Bryant's true time is NOT a 4.25. He may have been the fastest of those running but he is not a true 4.25. Add 0.10 to 0.15 and we'll have a closer time for his true speed.

I was curious whether these were electronically timed. If electronically timed, why are they not true times?

[Tbonewannabe]

That 2010 team had 3 NFL LBs (Cam Law, KJ, Chris White) and 3 NFL DL (Cox, McPhee, Boyd) and 2 NFL DBs (Banks, Mitchell).

Both Browns and Green are probably future NFL. Jones, James, and Ryan Brown NFL. Redmond and Calhoun are future NFL.

It is going to be interesting to see what the Defense looks like this year if guys play to their potential.

[Coach34]

That 2010 team had 3 NFL LBs (Cam Law, KJ, Chris White) and 3 NFL DL (Cox, McPhee, Boyd) and 2 NFL DBs (Banks, Mitchell).

The 2015 has at least 3 future NFL guys (Brown, Jones, James...maybe AJ) at least 3 future NFL LB's (Brown, Brown, Green) and at least 2 future NFL DB's (Remond and Calhoun)

[Leroy Jenkins]

Cam Lawrence was a backup. Emmanuel Gatling was the 3rd starter at LB.

This 2015 defense has as much talent as we had then. And is much deeper. Cox, Boyd, Lawrence, and Banks were all 2nd year players in 2010 as well. Likening their "NFL talent" at the time is akin to doing to same for Gerri Green, Brandon Bryant, and Cory Thomas right now...

Since when does "starter and backup" have any meaning in the CDM era? Go look at the individual stats for that year at hailstate.com compared to the starters.

[RoverDog]

The times are measured electronically. I wish he could run a 4.25. However, I assure you that Bryant's true time is NOT a 4.25. He may have been the fastest of those running but he is not a true 4.25. Add 0.10 to 0.15 and we'll have a closer time for his true speed.

I was curious whether these were electronically timed. If electronically timed, why are they not true times?

I wondered the same thing. Wouldn't electronically timed runs be more accurate than hand timed?

[codeDawg]

I wondered the same thing. Wouldn't electronically timed runs be more accurate than hand timed?

None of them are super accurate when it gets down to measuring tenths of a second. It doesn't really matter if he ran a 4.25 or a 4.4, he's really fast. Any sub 4.6 time is really, really fast.

What's valuable about this board for our team isn't the number, but the relative rank. It promotes competition.

[TheRef]

The times are measured electronically. I wish he could run a 4.25. However, I assure you that Bryant's true time is NOT a 4.25. He may have been the fastest of those running but he is not a true 4.25. Add 0.10 to 0.15 and we'll have a closer time for his true speed.

Did you mean NOT measured electronically? If they're measured electronically, then those are as accurate as could be.

[engie]

Since when does "starter and backup" have any meaning in the CDM era? Go look at the individual stats for that year at hailstate.com

You should take your own advice.





Lawrence had approximately the same production that year that Zach Jackson had this year. But since "starter and backup" has never meant anything in the Mullen era -- I'd love for you to explain Wright, White, and Mitchell's tackle numbers from that year under Diaz.

[Leroy Jenkins]

my point is you said Lawrence was backup to Gatling and there is a 0.29 tackles per game difference.

[Johnson85]

Who cares? I think the point of this whole thread is to point out that a guy who many are hoping will step up this year at, arguably, our biggest question mark of a position, is the fastest and one of the most athletic guys on our team (at 205 lbs).

And if a snowball fight ever breaks out on the field late in the season, we're apparently covered there too.

[Tbonewannabe]

The 2015 has at least 3 future NFL guys (Brown, Jones, James...maybe AJ) at least 3 future NFL LB's (Brown, Brown, Green) and at least 2 future NFL DB's (Remond and Calhoun)

Beat you by 3 minutes.

[engie]

my point is you said Lawrence was backup to Gatling and there is a 0.29 tackles per game difference.

No, I said Lawrence was a backup and Gatling was a starter. I didn't define which position he actually backed up. That difference was still greater than the difference between Beniquez Brown and Christian Holmes. So, are those guys basically identical as well in terms of NFL talent which is what the debate was initially about?

You started out to say that the 2010 defense was more talented than any other one we've had -- which was misleading for the reasons I defined. The best, maybe. Certainly the best scheme. But we've had as much talent pretty consistently.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

You should take your own advice.





Lawrence had approximately the same production that year that Zach Jackson had this year. But since "starter and backup" has never meant anything in the Mullen era -- I'd love for you to explain Wright, White, and Mitchell's tackle numbers from that year under Diaz.

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[Leroy Jenkins]

The 2015 has at least 3 future NFL guys (Brown, Jones, James...maybe AJ) at least 3 future NFL LB's (Brown, Brown, Green) and at least 2 future NFL DB's (Remond and Calhoun)

Im comparing those years given by the guy earlier in the thread implying that it was Diaz who made the difference in 2010. I was offering the suggestion that it may have been the players on that squad that made the D better that year.


Per year rushing stats against MSU.
2009 - 3.96 ypp, 18 tds allowed
2010 - 3.56 ypp, 11 tds allowed
2011 - 3.72 ypp, 15 tds allowed
2012 - 4.27 ypp, 16 tds allowed
2013 - 4.21 ypp, 17 tds allowed
2014 - 4.18 ypp, 17 tds allowed


I was not projecting to 2015 or comparing roster/depth between 2010 and 2015. Nevermind.

[maroonmania]

None of them are super accurate when it gets down to measuring tenths of a second. It doesn't really matter if he ran a 4.25 or a 4.4, he's really fast. Any sub 4.6 time is really, really fast.

What's valuable about this board for our team isn't the number, but the relative rank. It promotes competition.

It shouldn't matter, relatively speaking, Bryant is roughly .1 seconds faster than anyone else on the team in the 40. That's pretty significant.