How long until DeAndre Johnson transfers to Ole Miss? And no, I'm not kidding.

[TUSK]

I've learned on twitter in 2015 that you should never put your hands on a women, even if she's swinging a battle axe at your head trying to kill you. ZERO excuse I'm told.

what if she were a WM with a a 249SAW.... can I "give her a fresh one", then?

[BeardoMSU]

can I "give her a fresh one", then?

I'd slap my mother if she mispronounced consigliere, lol.

Btw, that's a hilarious scene, in a hilarious flick. Well done, Tusk.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Nothing a mission trip and some Bible studies with the rev. Freeze can't fix.

[I seen it dawg]

He is a POS and just graduated HS and in a bar drinking. Not legal either. Woman beater. Dual threat qb. Shit come on down bro we can save you here in Oxford. Buchanan and Kincaide how you loving your career choices?

[starkvegasdawg]

i'm fine with shaming him for that act, a man should know better, but not criminal punishment. in the eyes of the law, she attacked him unprovoked, and he defended himself.

There is a difference in defending yourself and doing what he did. She was a drunk coed. He is a D1 football player. Yes, she took a half hearted swing at him and yes, I would have no problem with her getting an assualt charge against her too, but that does not justify him then punching her in the face as hard as he can. What if that had been at a park and it was a 10 year old kid instead of a college girl? Would he still be justified in trying to see how many teeth he can knock down her throat? If that had been your wife or daughter would you still be ok with it? I do not know what he was charged with but I hope it is felony assault.

[BoomBoom]

There is a difference in defending yourself and doing what he did. She was a drunk coed. He is a D1 football player. Yes, she took a half hearted swing at him and yes, I would have no problem with her getting an assualt charge against her too, but that does not justify him then punching her in the face as hard as he can. What if that had been at a park and it was a 10 year old kid instead of a college girl? Would he still be justified in trying to see how many teeth he can knock down her throat? If that had been your wife or daughter would you still be ok with it? I do not know what he was charged with but I hope it is felony assault.

Self defense is only ok if you're bad at it?

[starkvegasdawg]

Self defense is only ok if you're bad at it?

No, I'm saying there are different levels of self defense. I'm going to tailer my response to the threat level. Being swung at by a drunk college girl that may weigh 120lbs soaking wet is not the same threat as being swung at by a 6'1" 200lbs guy. I find it ironic that you're ok with excessive self defense from this guy hitting a woman like this but almost wet your pants with anger when a cop defends himself from thugs. If he is allowed excessive self defense why not the police that are actually facing a legitimate threat?

[PMDawg]

What if it was Ronda Rousey?

[starkvegasdawg]

What if it was Ronda Rousey?

Then she would have thrown a better punch to start things off.

[Dawgfan61]

Didn't the SEC make a rule that teams couldn't accept transfers that had committed serious crimes like his or am I making that up?

I don't know the exact language, but I don't think the SEC is allowed to take transfers that were dismissed from their previous team.

However with this being said, I am sure young Mr. Jordan could transfer to EMCC redeem himself and then transfer to Ole Miss after having serious heart to hearts with the Good Reverend Freeze.

[sandwolf]

I'm going to tailer my response to the threat level.

This. And I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that the law requires that your response be appropriate (relative to the situation) for it to be considered self defense. And anyone who watched that video and legitimately thinks that Johnson's response was appropriate is an imbecile and probably a piece of shit.

Click HERE for a gif that just shows the altercation. Watch that a couple of times and then tell me that he shouldn't face any criminal charges. Is that chick stupid and skanky? Yup, sure looks like it. But is she a legitimate threat to that guy, or is it believable that he may have considered her to be a legitimate threat? Absolutely not.

[msstate7]

What the video doesn't show is his mother behind him. Freeze has already got out in front of this by issuing a statement...

"Although deandre isn't one of my players, I'm proud of him for defending his mother. If Fsu doesn't support a player protecting his mother, there's room for deandre to become a rebel here at the flagship..."

[I seen it dawg]

Self defense is only ok if you're bad at it?

Self defense in that situation? ****ing stupid. He was an asshole pushing his way to the bar underage first. Then he smokes a chick who gets crossways with him? Not criminal? You might be as ****ing dumb as that asshole is..you people that think this shit is somehow justified need to buried in a deep hole.

[I seen it dawg]

What if it was Ronda Rousey?

He wouldn't have had a chance to assault her. She would have knocked his punk ass out.

[fishwater99]

I agree. He should not have hot her at all.
De'Andre should have walked away from the situation, Hell, he's only 19 and was illegally in the bar to begin with.

[I seen it dawg]

Straight piece of shit thug.

[Cabo32]

You should never hit a woman..there is absolutely no reason you should ever hit a women..even if she hits you...or if she has a stutter..you should never hit a woman

-Anthony jeselnik

[Westdawg]

whats he doing in a west TN bar, anyway? where is he from and why is he there? Not to mention that the bar has just put itself square in the crosshairs of the TN liquor licensing department.

[msstate7]

Fsu is harder on hitting a woman than raping one.

[BoomBoom]

No, I'm saying there are different levels of self defense. I'm going to tailer my response to the threat level. Being swung at by a drunk college girl that may weigh 120lbs soaking wet is not the same threat as being swung at by a 6'1" 200lbs guy. I find it ironic that you're ok with excessive self defense from this guy hitting a woman like this but almost wet your pants with anger when a cop defends himself from thugs. If he is allowed excessive self defense why not the police that are actually facing a legitimate threat?

agreed, except that you are making assumptions that the court should not be making. how do you know she doesn't have a knife, or a gun? how do you know her next move isn't to pick up a bottle and take a swing at him with that? first rule of self defense is don't underestimate the threat. she threatened a punch, he grabbed her wrist and tried to calm her down it looks like (or maybe just talked smack, but this should be viewed in his favor), she took a swing. it looked to me like it connected. it's apparent he did not have room to easily back away. it's apparent she was not going to stop attacking him, and may very well have grabbed a weapon. he was trapped and was hit by a punch and can reasonably assume more or worse was to come. he threw one punch after she started the situation and he took the first opportunity to flee. that's textbook self defense.

a private citizen is not a cop, a private citizen does not have the training, nor have they accepted the job, of being in danger. they are not equivalent. but since you brought up cops, what if she had taken that swing at a cop? what if he had punched, tazed, or physically harmed her in some other way in response? has anyone ever "wet their pants in anger" over a cop's response to a swing at him that left minimal bruising to the swinger? you take a swing at a cop, he has the right to turn to physical force IMO. where do you stand? we have video evidence of cop's doing worse to female protesters who had offered no physical threat in any way, with no consequences, yet you don't see a problem, right?

anyway, the biggest problem for me, Mr. Small-government Conservative, is that letting the state decide what is "appropriate" self-defense in this way is how you end up getting charged for shooting a burglar in your house. NEVER let the State start parsing and assuming what threat an unprovoked aggressor poses.