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06-21-2015, 07:56 AM
#961
So were the Dbacks just in a giving mood? We didn't give up anything and got back a prospect with huge upside.
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06-21-2015, 08:12 AM
#962

Originally Posted by
trob115
So were the Dbacks just in a giving mood? We didn't give up anything and got back a prospect with huge upside.
The kicker was the $10.1 MIL in salary we took on. They had to give us a good bit back in return for taking that on. Hart still fleeced them pretty well.
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06-21-2015, 02:20 PM
#963
Love getting Toussaint, but I don't see why we'd want Arroyo. Aging pitcher coming off TJ who's never been much more than league average. If we put him in the rotation, he's taking the spot of a young kid. Honestly, our rotation is dealing outside of Teheran. And when you look at the numbers, he's mostly been bad on the road. I'd attribute a lot of that to trying to throw the damn 2-seamer more. He's looked a lot better since going back to the way he pitched last year.
Unless it was really early in his career, I don't ever remember Arroyo coming out of the pen. Plus I think he'd probably fit best in a long relief, spot starter role. And once again, I see the same problem sticking him in the pen that we have sticking him in the rotation: He'd be taking the spot of a young pitcher who could use the development. Frankly, I'd rather call up Banuelos to use out of the pen. But it's been so bad, I guess we're willing to take a flyer on anyone we think could help us, even if they are ridiculously overpriced like Arroyo.
It just doesn't make sense for us to add Arroyo, but I guess that's why I'm not a GM.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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06-21-2015, 02:28 PM
#964

Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Love getting Toussaint, but I don't see why we'd want Arroyo. Aging pitcher coming off TJ who's never been much more than league average. If we put him in the rotation, he's taking the spot of a young kid. Honestly, our rotation is dealing outside of Teheran. And when you look at the numbers, he's mostly been bad on the road. I'd attribute a lot of that to trying to throw the damn 2-seamer more. He's looked a lot better since going back to the way he pitched last year.
Unless it was really early in his career, I don't ever remember Arroyo coming out of the pen. Plus I think he'd probably fit best in a long relief, spot starter role. And once again, I see the same problem sticking him in the pen that we have sticking him in the rotation: He'd be taking the spot of a young pitcher who could use the development. Frankly, I'd rather call up Banuelos to use out of the pen. But it's been so bad, I guess we're willing to take a flyer on anyone we think could help us, even if they are ridiculously overpriced like Arroyo.
It just doesn't make sense for us to add Arroyo, but I guess that's why I'm not a GM.
Taking on arroyo's salary is why we were able to get TT.
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06-21-2015, 02:35 PM
#965

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Taking on arroyo's salary is why we were able to get TT.
Obviously. Just saying that I don't see how he fits this team. We still win the trade by 35 miles. Is Toussaint close to MLB ready? He may be the one to fill a bullpen spot.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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06-21-2015, 02:39 PM
#966

Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Obviously. Just saying that I don't see how he fits this team. We still win the trade by 35 miles. Is Toussaint close to MLB ready? He may be the one to fill a bullpen spot.
TT is only 19 and in A ball... I doubt he's close.
If our staff is established in August (arroyo's return), I think it's a strong possibility we cut em. Just guessing though
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06-21-2015, 03:18 PM
#967
Only guessing here but I wouldn't be surprised to see us use arroyo in the pen if our starters are dealing. He has shown the ability to get hot in stints and if they can catch lightning in a bottle for the last 2 months it would be icing on the cake.
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06-21-2015, 05:56 PM
#968

Originally Posted by
smootness
I was comparing Correa to Albies. Allies may not be Correa, but he has a chance to similarly blow through the minors.
And sorry, Jose Peraza is a JP, too.
ah, so he is. my bad.
predicting someone like Albies or even Correa will blow thru the minors is like predicting a prospect is the next Maddux. easier said than done. especially with how contracts work nowadays. why would you rush a top prospect up to the show just to lose him before his prime to FA?
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06-21-2015, 05:59 PM
#969
You guys still think I'm crazy for wanting ciriaco on the team? My boy!
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06-21-2015, 06:05 PM
#970
Oh and Teheran was outstanding. If he can figure out road starts, I'll feel a lot better about this staff
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06-21-2015, 06:08 PM
#971
?@grantmcauley
Pedro Ciriaco: Makes the opening day roster, then doesn't because of trade, and then comes up big when he finally gets his chance. #Braves
Ciriaco now hitting .304
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06-21-2015, 06:24 PM
#972

Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Obviously. Just saying that I don't see how he fits this team. We still win the trade by 35 miles. Is Toussaint close to MLB ready? He may be the one to fill a bullpen spot.
We don't care about Arroyo. If he never pitches for us, it doesn't matter.
They wanted to get rid of his contract, so we gladly took it in order to get Toussaint. We want Toussaint, not Arroyo.
And no, Toussaint isn't close to ready and won't be for a while. This move wasn't made for this year. It was made because we got a guy with legit ace potential for money we had room for in the budget. We basically got him for free. You pull the trigger on anyone dumb enough to give you that every single day.
Last edited by smootness; 06-21-2015 at 06:28 PM.
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06-21-2015, 06:30 PM
#973
Teheran was better than Harvey today. Absolutely nasty. Now the adventure begins. #BravesBullpen
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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06-21-2015, 06:35 PM
#974
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!!!!!!!!!!!
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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06-21-2015, 06:38 PM
#975
Very nice sweep to get back to .500. This weekend our bullpen threw 6 innings -- all scoreless. 2 rookie pitchers and a struggling veteran took down NY's best
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06-21-2015, 07:08 PM
#976
Hard to believe this season is nearing the halfway point. And as hard as we have been on this team they are only two games out of first. Yes, I know we appear to be in a weak division. But 2 games out is two games out.
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06-21-2015, 07:13 PM
#977

Originally Posted by
starkvegasdawg
Hard to believe this season is nearing the halfway point. And as hard as we have been on this team they are only two games out of first. Yes, I know we appear to be in a weak division. But 2 games out is two games out.
And that's with Teheran not living up to ace status (on road anyway), worst bullpen in mlb (getting much better lately though), and 2 rookies in the rotation (Perez and folty, now Perez and wisler).
It'll be interesting if we're this close this time next month if we become a buyer. There's no way I'd mortgage future for a rental piece, but if we can add someone who'll be here for a few years I'd be all over it
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06-21-2015, 08:11 PM
#978
@BravesReddit
While I'm at it..
Ozhaino Albies is hitting .387/.403/.467 in June for Rome
Davidson hit 6th hr today
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06-21-2015, 10:07 PM
#979

Originally Posted by
msstate7
@BravesReddit
While I'm at it..
Ozhaino Albies is hitting .387/.403/.467 in June for Rome
Davidson hit 6th hr today
Over his last 19 games, Davidson is hitting .323/.457/.492 with 2 HR, 5 2B, 14 BB, and 15 SO in about 65 at bats. His isolated power keeps climbing. He's starting to get a feel for things, and his power is starting to come. He has hit 6 HRs on the year now.
Also, RHP Max Povse got promoted to Carolina. He's a 2nd year guy out of UNC Greensboro. Atlanta drafted one of his teammates this year in Ryan Clark. Both are 6'6" + pitchers. The Rome pitching staff is now: Touki Touissant, Alec Grosser, Caleb Beech, Ricardo Sanchez, and Chad Sobotka.
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06-21-2015, 10:50 PM
#980

Originally Posted by
msstate7
And that's with Teheran not living up to ace status (on road anyway), worst bullpen in mlb (getting much better lately though), and 2 rookies in the rotation (Perez and folty, now Perez and wisler).
It'll be interesting if we're this close this time next month if we become a buyer. There's no way I'd mortgage future for a rental piece, but if we can add someone who'll be here for a few years I'd be all over it
Dang...with all those hurdles to over come someone must be doing a hell of a job leading this team***
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