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Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
LEBRON is getting credit for stuff he isn't even doing.
Warriors are missing shots...period. If they shoot well tonight, they win by 15 or more.
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The Reason Jerry West didn't win more was because of Russell's Celtics and Wilt' s awesome Philadelpia Warrior team. but when Wilt went to the Lakers with West and Baylor they were awesome. Do you not think they were athletic? These team nowadays have no one that could handle Wilt. The only Player that could hold Him down was Bill Russell. Remember , I,listened to Tiny Arichbald explain the other day, that when Magic and Bird played hand checking was allowed they can't hand check anymore. He said without hand checking Bird would score forty every game. Look at Jerry West still holding the record for points scored in the first two game of a finals and there was no 3 point line then.
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Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
Ahem... Well 20+, so off a little.
Good bye Cleveland.
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Originally Posted by
tcdog70
The Reason Jerry West didn't win more was because of Russell's Celtics and Wilt' s awesome Philadelpia Warrior team. but when Wilt went to the Lakers with West and Baylor they were awesome. Do you not think they were athletic? These team nowadays have no one that could handle Wilt. The only Player that could hold Him down was Bill Russell. Remember , I,listened to Tiny Arichbald explain the other day, that when Magic and Bird played hand checking was allowed they can't hand check anymore. He said without hand checking Bird would score forty every game. Look at Jerry West still holding the record for points scored in the first two game of a finals and there was no 3 point line then.
you're right, the nba now is not more physical than it was then.
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Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
Ahem... Well 20+, so off a little.
Good bye Cleveland.
Yeah, touche.

Series isn't over yet, though. It'll go to 7.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I don't watch hardly any nba so I can't argue, but I think you've got some guys that don't match the greatness of my list. Again though, i don't watch enough, so I'll leave this argument to more informed posters
i think a lot of players benefit from nostalgia. in 20-30 years there will be 40-50 year olds talking about how the current players can't match up with lebron, kobe, tim duncan, durant, dirk, etc. and they'll be just as full of shit as the people saying that now.
you also listed guys that played in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. so that's 4 decades worth of great players you are asking for the current NBA to match. that's just unfair.
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Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
Yeah, touche.
Series isn't over yet, though. It'll go to 7.
Probably right.... Long way to go yet .
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71-72 Lakers was the best I have ever seen.
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Why the hell does it start so late?
Game was in CLE. Cali too vogue to end dinner before 7pm?
Last edited by FlabLoser; 06-12-2015 at 12:42 AM.
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Originally Posted by
FlabLoser
Why the hell does it start so late?
because there's a whole time zone over here on the west coast that works till 5, and the NBA and ABC aren't going to start their biggest games of the year while that entire time zone is either still working or just leaving work.
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Originally Posted by
dawgs
i think a lot of players benefit from nostalgia. in 20-30 years there will be 40-50 year olds talking about how the current players can't match up with lebron, kobe, tim duncan, durant, dirk, etc. and they'll be just as full of shit as the people saying that now.
you also listed guys that played in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. so that's 4 decades worth of great players you are asking for the current NBA to match. that's just unfair.
I'm sure nostalgia does play a part in my thinking those players were better than today's. When I came up with that list, I was trying to think of players that Jordan played against. My argument that I think started in another thread was that Jordan played against better competition in his career. I guess I couldve added Stockton, Malone, shaq, Ewing, Clyde, miller, and mchale
Last edited by msstate7; 06-12-2015 at 07:21 AM.
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People really show their age and how white they are when they start discussing NBA basketball on here. And I'm white.
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Originally Posted by
Jacksondevildog
People really show their age and how white they are when they start discussing NBA basketball on here. And I'm white.
Pistol Pete could be all today's players haha
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Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
Ahem... Well 20+, so off a little.
Good bye Cleveland.
Good bye? It's just a best of three now. I'm still taking Lebron to win 2. But he's not going to do it with JR and Shumpert being complete ghosts.
The cavs need to come up with a plan for David Lee. Would've liked to see him and Love battle. Two skilled bigs.
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FYI--Jerry West could jump 16 inches over the rim. He was also selected on the all defensive team, Wilt is the only Center to lead the NBA in assist for a season. Oscar Robinson averaged a triple double for a season. i just found this pretty awesome.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Pistol Pete could be all today's players haha
Yeah, he could even dribble with both hands
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Originally Posted by
DudyDawg
Good bye? It's just a best of three now. I'm still taking Lebron to win 2. But he's not going to do it with JR and Shumpert being complete ghosts.
The cavs need to come up with a plan for David Lee. Would've liked to see him and Love battle. Two skilled bigs.
Cleveland's success has hinged on LJ having monster games, and Dellavedova playing lights-out defense versus Curry, a task that literally put him in the hospital after game 3. Neither seem capable of keeping up the pace. The Warriors are just better, with a LOT more depth. Even when their starters have crappy games, the, "1b's" come in and play extremely well.
As in the Memphis series, when the other team plays great, and GS plays well below their standard, GS either keeps the game within reach or wins. When GS plays to their potential, they dominate.
Would have been interesting to see how this would have played out had Cleveland been more healthy. Then again, we might not have seen the performances we got from Delladelova. He has been a HUGE difference-maker for Cleveland so far.
Last edited by blacklistedbully; 06-12-2015 at 10:57 AM.
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The Cavs would have given themselves a better chance of winning the series by resting Lebron for the entire second half. He's trying to do too much. Also, he should have been checked for for concussion after the injury. I don't understand the way that whole thing went down.
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Originally Posted by
drunkernhelldawg
The Cavs would have given themselves a better chance of winning the series by resting Lebron for the entire second half. He's trying to do too much. Also, he should have been checked for for concussion after the injury. I don't understand the way that whole thing went down.
Probably scared to have him checked. If he gets diagnosed with a concussion, it's over
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Aren't there rules against playing with an open wound too?
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