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[shoeless joe]

Well me and about 50 other brave fans were raising hell on Braves' message board before the disaster. It was beyond a bad move.

Fair enough.

I didn't even turn the game on til the 8th but apparently Teheran had a good game. Take the series from Arizona and this could be a huge road trip for the remainder of the season.

[msstate7]

Fair enough.

I didn't even turn the game on til the 8th but apparently Teheran had a good game. Take the series from Arizona and this could be a huge road trip for the remainder of the season.

Wood, miller, and folty on the bump vs Arizona. If we get home above .500, it could be a huge confidence builder for this team.

Teheran certainly settled down. 4 bb, 1 k, and velocity down are concerning, but can't argue with results

[shoeless joe]

Shoeless... You think letting Teheran hit, bringing in veal, and not subbing Cunningham in lf were good moves?

Like I said, I didn't see that sequence. Of all the things you listed I think bringing in veal was worse than leaving in Teheran with the lead. I do understand wanting to get an extra inning or two out of him, knowing the struggles and over use of certain relief guys. But again I didn't see Teheran throw one pitch so I don't know what his last couple innings looked like to use as a gauge and inform my opinion.

[msstate7]

Like I said, I didn't see that sequence. Of all the things you listed I think bringing in veal was worse than leaving in Teheran with the lead. I do understand wanting to get an extra inning or two out of him, knowing the struggles and over use of certain relief guys. But again I didn't see Teheran throw one pitch so I don't know what his last couple innings looked like to use as a gauge and inform my opinion.

Ok with the bullpen, I'll forgive fredi (not really, but for argument sake) for leaving in Teheran. Why not sub Cunningham in left though with Teheran giving up a ton of fly balls? Fredi subbed FF for CJ at 1b, which I agreed with. Leaving Gomes in left was dumb esp considering he misplayed a ball already, but dove and caught it. Really believe Cunningham runs that double down making all this all meaningless

[KB21]

I'll be honest. I'm not a big Fredi fan, but the constant criticism he gets is amusing when this team is right around .500 and is a team that most expected would be a 100 loss team this year. Fredi and this team have surpassed their expectations to this point.

[shoeless joe]

Ok with the bullpen, I'll forgive fredi (not really, but for argument sake) for leaving in Teheran. Why not sub Cunningham in left though with Teheran giving up a ton of fly balls? Fredi subbed FF for CJ at 1b, which I agreed with. Leaving Gomes in left was dumb esp considering he misplayed a ball already, but dove and caught it. Really believe Cunningham runs that double down making all this all meaningless

Good questions.

My point is not to defend fredi...but, I guess, to defend all managers. Hind sight is 20-20 and it's always easy to go back and say what decision should have been made.

I can go back and question decisions made by bobby that were questionable from the 91 series all the way to pulling kimbrel to let Dunn face Aubrey huff. None of that means he isn't a HOF manager, in fact it shows the "6 of one, half a dozen of the other" nature of the game. Individual players have to make plays for any move to be a good one.

[msstate7]

I'll be honest. I'm not a big Fredi fan, but the constant criticism he gets is amusing when this team is right around .500 and is a team that most expected would be a 100 loss team this year. Fredi and this team have surpassed their expectations to this point.

Fredi deserves some credit for that, but the lion's share of credit is hart's. Fredi didn't acquire Peterson, Maybin, miller, grilli, Jim Johnson, etc while also building for the future. Hart is the man

[KB21]

Fredi deserves some credit for that, but the lion's share of credit is hart's. Fredi didn't acquire Peterson, Maybin, miller, grilli, Jim Johnson, etc while also building for the future. Hart is the man

No, but it you listen to the criticism by fans on Braves message boards, Fredi will find a way to screw things up. In the long run, managers have very little control over the outcome of the games.

[msstate7]

:55 PM
@DOBrienAJC
Not to be trite or harsh, but it seems inevitable the #Braves will cut the Veal. Nice guy, but just overmatched.

[msstate7]

@DOBrienAJC
#Braves Fredi on Teheran: "I think he?s OK health-wise, I think it?s just a matter of the game plan, or the way he?s executing his pitches."

#Braves Fredi G on Teheran: "I know his line looks pretty good, but I just didn?t feel comfortable the whole game, to tell you the truth."

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Yet he left Teheran in to hit for himself with FF on the bench

[msstate7]

9:38 PM
@DOBrienAJC
#Braves Peterson .303 (36-for-119) with .370 OBP, 6 extra-base hits (2 triples, 1 HR), 19 RBIs in past 32 games, w/ 13 BB, 17 K.

[msstate7]

Wisler Wins Second IL Pitcher of the Week Award
He went 1-0 and did not allow a run in 10.1 innings from May 25-31

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp..._t431&sid=t431

[War Machine Dawg]

Teheran's velo being down is a huge concern. He's supposed to be between 92-94 not 86-88. I still say there's some sort of injury that's either undiagnosed or undisclosed for some reason. That's a significant dip for a guy Fredi is still claiming isn't hurt.

[msstate7]

@BravesReddit
(Wisler) Finished May w/1.78 ERA, 0.8774 WHIP, BAA of .197 and gave up just 6 BB in 6G while striking out 26.

[msstate7]

Veal dfa'd

Cody Martin recalled

[msstate7]

2:19 PM
@DOBrienAJC
Don't forget, #Braves could have a nice add to bullpen in Moylan. He could be close.

[msstate7]

@rcatlfins24 don't know how sharp they'll be but vizcaino and Mckirahan come off suspension early in July

@DOBrienAJC
Supposedly throwing very well in extended spring training. Least that's word from Braves officials who've seen them.

[cbrunt29]

Playing well so far tonight. Braves lead 5-0 in the 5th

[msstate7]

@mbraves
.@Braves @JoeTerdoslavich to rehab at Double-A Mississippi Wednesday - Friday http://atmilb.com/1daYCp0 #MBraves @mbraves

[msstate7]

Peterson with another double and rbi vs a lefty. Peterson has 22 rbi's this year. Really like this kid