C34 talks SEC QB's

[ShotgunDawg]

Ya'll need to check out his 2009 Auburn offense- his QB wasn't very mobile

That team also went 8-5

Look, I'm not staying Auburn's offense won't be good, but I'm just skeptical that it will be great. All I've heard this offseason is that Johnson is better than Marshall and Auburn will win the West, but to me there are some unanswered questions and I'm skeptical. Auburn's defense must make strides and Johnson must play like a veteran for them to win. Both of which we don't have much proof of what will happen.

[ShotgunDawg]

I'm still mad we didn't land Dobbs - thanks Cord and MLB

Dobbs is good, but he wouldn't be playing here this year, and I think Fitz and Staley have every bit of the raw talent that he does, but simply haven't had the chance to show it yet.

I don't think losing Dobbs for Cord will ever haunt us. Mullen has recruited to well at that position in the past few years.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

That team also went 8-5

Look, I'm not staying Auburn's offense won't be good, but I'm just skeptical that it will be great. All I've heard this offseason is that Johnson is better than Marshall and Auburn will win the West, but to me there are some unanswered questions and I'm skeptical. Auburn's defense must make strides and Johnson must play like a veteran for them to win. Both of which we don't have much proof of what will happen.

Yea but they didn't go 8-5 because they had a passing QB. That's my point in all of this. Them winning the west vs going 8-4 won't have anything to do with Johnson not being a great runner. If they don't win the west it will because that defense stinks & Muschamp couldn't turn it around in 1 year.

[maroonmania]

I'm still mad we didn't land Dobbs - thanks Cord and MLB

Exactly, without the Cord Sandberg factor we would have Dobbs. Dobbs was NOT going to sign with us as the "second QB" and you can't really blame him. We were fortunate to get Damien Williams under that circumstance.

[blacklistedbully]

i'm sure everybody on here knows how much I despise TSUN. That said, it seems to me most of us are perhaps writing-off Chad Kelly prematurely. I absolutely hope he crashes and burns, taking VH and the Black-Bears-named-Rebel with him. But are some of us jumping the gun by not giving him a shot to be very good at TSUN?

Please tell me why I'm wrong. I really don't want to feel uneasy about his potential. But is he much more a, "wild-card" than a likely scrub?

[Coach34]

That team also went 8-5

Look, I'm not staying Auburn's offense won't be good, but I'm just skeptical that it will be great. All I've heard this offseason is that Johnson is better than Marshall and Auburn will win the West, but to me there are some unanswered questions and I'm skeptical. Auburn's defense must make strides and Johnson must play like a veteran for them to win. Both of which we don't have much proof of what will happen.

2009 Auburn offense- 3rd in scoring, 2nd on Total O
2009 Auburn defense- 12th in Scoring D (deadass last), 11th in Total D

Had they had any D at all- they were a 10 win team

[thf24]

i'm sure everybody on here knows how much I despise TSUN. That said, it seems to me most of us are perhaps writing-off Chad Kelly prematurely. I absolutely hope he crashes and burns, taking VH and the Black-Bears-named-Rebel with him. But are some of us jumping the gun by not giving him a shot to be very good at TSUN?

Please tell me why I'm wrong. I really don't want to feel uneasy about his potential. But is he much more a, "wild-card" than a likely scrub?

I think it's mostly that his JUCO coach said Bo Wallace was better than him and Bo wasn't all that great his first year at OM, and that Kelly supposedly hasn't separated himself from either of the other QB's thus far, who both looked extremely pedestrian in limited time last year. I agree that he's still a wild card at this point though; the guy undeniably has some talent.

[Coach34]

i'm sure everybody on here knows how much I despise TSUN. That said, it seems to me most of us are perhaps writing-off Chad Kelly prematurely. I absolutely hope he crashes and burns, taking VH and the Black-Bears-named-Rebel with him. But are some of us jumping the gun by not giving him a shot to be very good at TSUN?

Please tell me why I'm wrong.

1. East Miss coaches say Bo Dirt was better
2. Bo Dirt had better numbers at East Miss except on INT's
3. Very rare that a juco QB comes into the SEC and lights it up. There is going to be a transition
4. He doesnt have a personality that screams greatness- his screams douchebag

[blacklistedbully]

1. East Miss coaches say Bo Dirt was better
2. Bo Dirt had better numbers at East Miss except on INT's
3. Very rare that a juco QB comes into the SEC and lights it up. There is going to be a transition
4. He doesnt have a personality that screams greatness- his screams douchebag

Regarding point 4, that just means he's a good fit at TSUN.

[RougeDawg]

Regarding point 4, that just means he's a good fit at TSUN.

I Will add what a Juco football follower told me in January about MGK and the difference between he and BroLocks. This guy told me that the talent surrounding MGK was much more elite than the talent Bro had, and that MGK's WR advantage over the much less talented Juco opponents was the main reason for his success. He's undersized and simply used the "heave and hope" approval to amass his stats. And despite all of the talent around him everyone agrees BroLocks is/was the better QB.

[Coach34]

I Will add what a Juco football follower told me in January about MGK and the difference between he and BroLocks. This guy told me that the talent surrounding MGK was much more elite than the talent Bro had, and that MGK's WR advantage over the much less talented Juco opponents was the main reason for his success. He's undersized and simply used the "heave and hope" approval to amass his stats. And despite all of the talent around him everyone agrees BroLocks is/was the better QB.

Thats damn near verbatim what their Coach said...said they had guys running free all year that you never see in the SEC

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Thats damn near verbatim what their Coach said...said they had guys running free all year that you never see in the SEC

There is a huge talent gap between EMCC & every other Juco instate. Hell every other Juco in the country. It's crazy how they've become such a powerhouse.

[Pollodawg]

There is a huge talent gap between EMCC & every other Juco instate. Hell every other Juco in the country. It's crazy how they've become such a powerhouse.

They absolutely ran JCJC off the field in the NJCAA Championship if I am remembering correctly. It's ridiculous the gap between them and everyone else. But, MS JUCO in general is stronger than most other states.

[blacklistedbully]

They absolutely ran JCJC off the field in the NJCAA Championship if I am remembering correctly. It's ridiculous the gap between them and everyone else. But, MS JUCO in general is stronger than most other states.

Mississippi & Kansas.

[justwin]

Ya'll need to check out his 2009 Auburn offense- his QB wasn't very mobile

8-5 that year

[justwin]

Gus's offense looked fine under Chris Todd in 2009 & Johnson is way more talented than Todd. Gus can structure his offense to whatever QB he has. You must remember Gus gained his fame & attention in Arkansas basically running the Mike Leach spread & lately at Auburn he's run a read option. Johnson won't have to be good running for the offense to be succesful.

I see what you're saying, but he had 3 NFL rbs in Ark to get 10 wins. That's an anomaly.

[justwin]

2009 Auburn offense- 3rd in scoring, 2nd on Total O
2009 Auburn defense- 12th in Scoring D (deadass last), 11th in Total D

Had they had any D at all- they were a 10 win team

I don't buy that b/c Auburn never has a good defense. Well, at least not since 2008. Aub Total D: 2008, 7th; 2009, 11th; 2010 SCAM 9th; 2011 11th; 2012 13th; 2013 NC appearance 12th; 2014 9th.

In 2010 & 2013, they just outscored everyone....especially 2013 when they had 3+ wins in the last few minutes of the game.

My point is that for Gus' offense to get them 8+ wins, a running QB is necessary. Auburn can't rely on a defense to win them games but instead need a dynamic running qb to give them a chance. Yeah, Gus can have a successful offense without a running qb, but a running qb makes his offense extraordinary.

[MSUDawg4Life]

I see what you're saying, but he had 3 NFL rbs in Ark to get 10 wins. That's an anomaly.

He might have three NFL RBs this year.

[Dawg61]

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