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    Quote Originally Posted by trob115 View Post
    Callaspo is garbage. We need to ship him down to AAA or release him.
    4 for last 36 yet he starts everyday. Fredi is an idiot. Ciriaco isn't great, but he doesn't hit pop ups every at bat. Even callaspo's hits are pop ups

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    4 for last 36 yet he starts everyday. Fredi is an idiot. Ciriaco isn't great, but he doesn't hit pop ups every at bat. Even callaspo's hits are pop ups
    I'm still not happy that Fredi is the manager, but that's a debate for another day. Callaspo has been awful the month of May. Anyone would be better at this point.

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    Simmons hit a hr on May 11th vs the Reds. Since that hr, he's 4 for 34. I love this kid, but he must not be very smart. Since that hr, he's right back falling on his knees after swings. Hey andrelton, you are NOT a power hitter. Cut down on your swing!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Simmons hit a hr on May 11th vs the Reds. Since that hr, he's 4 for 34. I love this kid, but he must not be very smart. Since that hr, he's right back falling on his knees after swings. Hey andrelton, you are NOT a power hitter. Cut down on your swing!!!!!
    I'd say some of that is how randomly Fredi moves him around the lineup. 7th, 8th, 2nd, 5th....he's never in one spot long. Honestly, I think he's a perfect fit for the 2 hole. I have no idea why we moved him down to 7 and put Callaspo there. Put Simba back at 2 where he'll see better pitches with Fredi behind him and can get on base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    I'd say some of that is how randomly Fredi moves him around the lineup. 7th, 8th, 2nd, 5th....he's never in one spot long. Honestly, I think he's a perfect fit for the 2 hole. I have no idea why we moved him down to 7 and put Callaspo there. Put Simba back at 2 where he'll see better pitches with Fredi behind him and can get on base.
    Maybin is at 2 now, and that's where he should be. He's been great there. Simmons is fine down in the order, he's just cold right now.

    Callapo just shouldn't play. Peraza should be up pretty soon, and I'd like to see him lead off with the lineup looking like this:
    Peraza
    Maybin
    Freeman
    Markakis
    Peterson
    Simmons
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    Simmons has fallen into bad habits. At the start of the year, he was swinging the bat like he should. Now, he's back to swinging for the fences, and he is cork screwing himself into the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Maybin is at 2 now, and that's where he should be. He's been great there. Simmons is fine down in the order, he's just cold right now.

    Callapo just shouldn't play. Peraza should be up pretty soon, and I'd like to see him lead off with the lineup looking like this:
    Peraza
    Maybin
    Freeman
    Markakis
    Peterson
    Simmons
    LF
    C
    I'd like to see terdo get a shot at lf. He's headed to Rome now. Dfa EY

    CJ is supposed to be back this week. Will we see a platoon between Peterson and CJ at 3rd once peraza is here? CJ murders lh pitching so I want him playing when we see them

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    We pitched the core of our bullpen today. They pitched 5 scoreless innings giving up 3 hits, 2 walks, and struck out 5. Here's these guys' era this year...

    Cunniff -- 1.80
    Jim Johnson -- 2.53
    Grilli -- 4.40
    Masset -- 1.50
    Avilan -- 2.50

    These guys are really having nice years and are stabilizing our pen.

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    Folty with a very impressive start.

    7.2 ip 3 h 1 er 1 bb 7 k

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    This is the glimpse of what his potential could be. Top of rotation stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    This is the glimpse of what his potential could be. Top of rotation stuff.
    How good could this rotation be if Teheran and wood get back into last year's form? I feel comfortable that 5th starter will be good between Perez, banuelos, wisler, fried, Jenkins, winkler, Sanchez, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Folty with a very impressive start.

    7.2 ip 3 h 1 er 1 bb 7 k
    Phenomenal stuff from him. This is the start I was waiting for, to put it all together for one start, and he did that today. He was darn near unhittable for most of it, and he gains velocity as the game goes.

    If he can just keep commanding his fastball, the sky really is the limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    How good could this rotation be if Teheran and wood get back into last year's form? I feel comfortable that 5th starter will be good between Perez, banuelos, wisler, fried, Jenkins, winkler, Sanchez, etc
    Well, by the time Sanchez is ready, I'm sure it will look different all around. But yes, it could round into a very good rotation by the end of this year and going into next. Banuelos has really been impressive lately, and Wisler could be called up at any point as well. Then Jenkins could be ready by next year as well.

    It's exciting, for sure. I'm especially interested in seeing Fried next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    How good could this rotation be if Teheran and wood get back into last year's form? I feel comfortable that 5th starter will be good between Perez, banuelos, wisler, fried, Jenkins, winkler, Sanchez, etc
    It has the potential to be the one of, if not the best 5 man rotations in the MLB. IMO. Really like what is in the minors as well. I think we may have the luxury of being able to deal a piece or two from this collection to help other areas as well. If we add a really good draft this year, can be exciting times for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Well, by the time Sanchez is ready, I'm sure it will look different all around. But yes, it could round into a very good rotation by the end of this year and going into next. Banuelos has really been impressive lately, and Wisler could be called up at any point as well. Then Jenkins could be ready by next year as well.

    It's exciting, for sure. I'm especially interested in seeing Fried next year.
    I wonder what we're gonna do with Jenkins, banuelos, and wisler next year. I think all 3 will be ready, but only 1 spot. Will we trade 1 for a catcher or corner OF? Pitch 1 out of pen? Just gonna be interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Well, by the time Sanchez is ready, I'm sure it will look different all around. But yes, it could round into a very good rotation by the end of this year and going into next. Banuelos has really been impressive lately, and Wisler could be called up at any point as well. Then Jenkins could be ready by next year as well.

    It's exciting, for sure. I'm especially interested in seeing Fried next year.
    Yeah, Sanchez might have been a little premature. Hopefully Sanchez, hursh, and sims all pan out for a 2nd wave of good starters

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I wonder what we're gonna do with Jenkins, banuelos, and wisler next year. I think all 3 will be ready, but only 1 spot. Will we trade 1 for a catcher or corner OF? Pitch 1 out of pen? Just gonna be interesting...
    I think it will probably take care of itself. Jenkins won't be ready to start the year, and someone will likely go down with an injury, unfortunately. Regardless, pitching depth is a very good thing. I would be ok with trading somebody if the right trade presented itself, but I'm not a fan of going into a year with only 5-6 good SP options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Yeah, Sanchez might have been a little premature. Hopefully Sanchez, hursh, and sims all pan out for a 2nd wave of good starters
    I'm kind of pessimistic on Sims. He still has time, but he just hasn't looked good for over a year now. I'm not counting on him, and if he comes along, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

    I honestly think Hursh is destined to be a closer or setup man, and I'm ok with that. It would be nice to have a guy in the pen at some point next year who can throw 100. I would have already moved him to the pen to get him ready for that, but we'll see.

    In terms of ceiling/potential, I'd rank our pitching prospects like this:
    1. Folty
    2. Jenkins
    3. Fried
    4. Banuelos
    5. Sanchez
    6. Wisler
    7. Sims

    We do have guys like Povse, Sobotka, Janas, and Thurman who kind of fit the mold of pitchers we've had success with in the past, guys that aren't really prospects but just keep moving up and pitching well - Beachy, Medlen, Oberholtzer. Not saying any of those guys will have that kind of success, but we have intriguing options even outside of our top prospects, which is great.

    We also have Fulenchek, our HS draftee from last year that hasn't pitched yet this year. And I would expect us to come out of this year's draft with at least 2 more high-ceiling pitching options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I'm kind of pessimistic on Sims. He still has time, but he just hasn't looked good for over a year now. I'm not counting on him, and if he comes along, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

    I honestly think Hursh is destined to be a closer or setup man, and I'm ok with that. It would be nice to have a guy in the pen at some point next year who can throw 100. I would have already moved him to the pen to get him ready for that, but we'll see.

    In terms of ceiling/potential, I'd rank our pitching prospects like this:
    1. Folty
    2. Jenkins
    3. Fried
    4. Banuelos
    5. Sanchez
    6. Wisler
    7. Sims

    We do have guys like Povse, Sobotka, Janas, and Thurman who kind of fit the mold of pitchers we've had success with in the past, guys that aren't really prospects but just keep moving up and pitching well - Beachy, Medlen, Oberholtzer. Not saying any of those guys will have that kind of success, but we have intriguing options even outside of our top prospects, which is great.

    We also have Fulenchek, our HS draftee from last year that hasn't pitched yet this year. And I would expect us to come out of this year's draft with at least 2 more high-ceiling pitching options.
    Don't sleep on Williams Perez. I think he will stay on the team, if nothing else as a reliever. I like this kid

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I'm kind of pessimistic on Sims. He still has time, but he just hasn't looked good for over a year now. I'm not counting on him, and if he comes along, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

    I honestly think Hursh is destined to be a closer or setup man, and I'm ok with that. It would be nice to have a guy in the pen at some point next year who can throw 100. I would have already moved him to the pen to get him ready for that, but we'll see.

    In terms of ceiling/potential, I'd rank our pitching prospects like this:
    1. Folty
    2. Jenkins
    3. Fried
    4. Banuelos
    5. Sanchez
    6. Wisler
    7. Sims

    We do have guys like Povse, Sobotka, Janas, and Thurman who kind of fit the mold of pitchers we've had success with in the past, guys that aren't really prospects but just keep moving up and pitching well - Beachy, Medlen, Oberholtzer. Not saying any of those guys will have that kind of success, but we have intriguing options even outside of our top prospects, which is great.

    We also have Fulenchek, our HS draftee from last year that hasn't pitched yet this year. And I would expect us to come out of this year's draft with at least 2 more high-ceiling pitching options.
    I imagine it will be more than two. Atlanta's lower minors is pretty barren when it comes to pitching prospects right now.

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