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Originally Posted by
Smitty
1. Our program is in terrible shape
2. We have great players coming in.
3. We have a coach that meddles, wastes, takes years to get anything out of talent.
4. We need to get someone who won't **** up a great opportunity.
Ok. Have a great day tomorrow.
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Banned
The mask has finally come off when John can't rely on a MLB bullpen to cover for him.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
Ok. Have a great day tomorrow.
I think it's pretty funny that the guy Smitty is promoting was the one coach at the CWS in 2013 that said he didn't believe in using sabermetrics.
I'll be honest- I'd be kind of scared to hire a coach that said something like that.
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WMD, be careful for what ye wish....
we need to sever all ties with our... coaching tree. Bring in someone from the outside with no connection to the program, hire non-alumni assistants and totally start over. The culture needs to be nuked and rebuilt to fit modern day ball. A fresh start and clean slate is required.
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"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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Originally Posted by
Smitty
He's not a very good coach.
..and over and over and over and over and over and over..........................."
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Originally Posted by
Smitty
The mask has finally come off when John can't rely on a MLB bullpen to cover for him.
...and over and over and over and over and over and over...............
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Originally Posted by
Bully13
I got a 2 week band for this shit a month ago... suck it pussies..
You get banned for being a total ****ing jackass idiot sometimes. Not for railing on Cohen.
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the guy who brought us to the national championship series without a very talented team is not a good coach? That season and this season basically cancel each other out to me. The rest of the body of work, including where the program is headed with recruiting, the new stadium, attendance, etc... has to be factored in.
You can't judge a coach by anomalies and you don't fire a coach for one bad season, especially in baseball.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
You can't judge a coach by anomalies and you don't fire a coach for one bad season, especially in baseball.
Wouldn't the cws run be the anomaly
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Banned
Firing Cohen isn't the answer. Have you forgotten he got us to the championship game a few years ago?
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
the guy who brought us to the national championship series without a very talented team is not a good coach? That season and this season basically cancel each other out to me. The rest of the body of work, including where the program is headed with recruiting, the new stadium, attendance, etc... has to be factored in.
You can't judge a coach by anomalies and you don't fire a coach for one bad season, especially in baseball.
He doesn't understand logic
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Wouldn't the cws run be the anomaly
A sec title, a super, a natty appearance, regional championship game, losing record. Which one of these five is not like the other??? Can you really not see it's the latter???
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Originally Posted by
Sox6201
Firing Cohen isn't the answer. Have you forgotten he got us to the championship game a few years ago?
So within a 3 year period, Cohen has taken us to our highest point in history all the way down to our lowest in history. Personally I don't think either year is indicative of what we are under Cohen. I think last year is gonna be a typical Cohen year. We'll be a regional, but not cws team.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Wouldn't the cws run be the anomaly
yes. and that's why I said this season and that season basically cancel each other out.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
the guy who brought us to the national championship series without a very talented team is not a good coach? That season and this season basically cancel each other out to me. The rest of the body of work, including where the program is headed with recruiting, the new stadium, attendance, etc... has to be factored in.
You can't judge a coach by anomalies and you don't fire a coach for one bad season, especially in baseball.
I agree. And that's why he should get another year. And probably will.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
A sec title, a super, a natty appearance, regional championship game, losing record. Which one of these five is not like the other??? Can you really not see it's the latter???
12 seasons in the sec...
7 losing seasons (take away the 2 first years from both schools and Cohen is only 5-3 in regards to finishing .500 or better). This will most likely be the 5th time Cohen has finished with 9 or fewer sec wins.
He's been to a regional 6 times, advanced to super twice, and cws once.
Throw out the first 2 seasons here and Cohen's record is 72-73 in sec play
Last edited by msstate7; 05-10-2015 at 09:00 AM.
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I read all the reasons why our team is in such a state of array, but no one has really the answers that I have seen. This theory makes more sense than anything I have read so far.
Seismic waves have slowly but surely moved the old Indian burial ground from under Scott field, thru the Hump and is now resting squarely under the Dude.
The bright side to this with the recent earth tremors close by, a shift could be coming that will continue this movement in a more north westerly direction at a much faster pace and will soon be resting under the grounds of the plantation.
Case in point, the recent sink hole in Oxford could be a omen.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
yes. and that's why I said this season and that season basically cancel each other out.
That's such a wrong way of looking at things.
Would you say Crooms 2007 and 2008 cancel each other out so he should be given more time? Stands 2004 and 2012? He had his chance and had royally blown it.
Cohen does not get us in sustainable spots for success. We have one host spot under him. We don't sniff hosting most years. Our offensive approach is abysmal. Our recruiting misses so much. Our development takes YEARS if it happens at all. Big-time regression from good hitters. Lost the team. Lost the staff. Why I wouldn't be surprised if he walks after this year.
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I do agree that Cohen should be back, but I want to see some things addressed at the end of the year press conference. The problem is the media sucks and they don't ask tough questions.
First of all, I want the players skipping work outs issue addressed publically and if it is an issue I want to know how they are going to fix it.
I want to know if he is going to adjust how they recruit players in terms of identifying character and toughness and if they are going to stop relying on JUCO players so much.
I want to know if he is willing to get a hitting coach.
After that, he'll probably be too pissed to talk about anything else.
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Originally Posted by
Smitty
That's such a wrong way of looking at things.
Would you say Crooms 2007 and 2008 cancel each other out so he should be given more time? Stands 2004 and 2012? He had his chance and had royally blown it.
Cohen does not get us in sustainable spots for success. We have one host spot under him. We don't sniff hosting most years. Our offensive approach is abysmal. Our recruiting misses so much. Our development takes YEARS if it happens at all. Big-time regression from good hitters. Lost the team. Lost the staff. Why I wouldn't be surprised if he walks after this year.
The Liberty Bowl and the round of 32 is not the same as playing in the National Championship of a sport. Not even remotely close. Especially when you have gone to the NC finals in a sport where fans have some of the highest expectations.
And you don't judge a coach on a lesser goal when he has gone beyond that point twice already. That would be like judging a basketball coach on the seed that he is given in the tournament- and not the actual results of the team in the tournament.
Croom also had losing seasons every single year except one year. Cohen has had four winning seasons the last five years- and this year will be the first time we have had a losing record in SEC play in a few years.
And you're the guy that just the other day attempted and failed to argue that Adam Frazier, Wes Rea, and CT Bradford all regressed as hitters which was completely laughable. As is your personal hitting approach.
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