In football news, I heard we had a scrimmage...

[Coach34]

and the defense pretty much took it to our O...dont really have any details- just that the D is definitely ahead of the O at this point and our LB's "look incredible"

[msstate7]

Good. I love it when we're a defensive team

[HancockCountyDog]

and the defense pretty much took it to our O...dont really have any details- just that the D is definitely ahead of the O at this point and our LB's "look incredible"

As much as I enjoy the misery of bastards to the north, I would much rather talk MSU than the hopeful destruction of the bear program.

Great to hear about defense, its not surprising, we should have an elite defense this year. I think Oklahoma State finds that out in week 1.

[engie]

Yep -- last year was the first time under Mullen that we heard about "the offense getting the best of the defense"...Hindsight shows what that was...

I'm basically 100% confident that our offense is ahead of where it was at this point last year. As such, the defense must be looking pretty salty...

[Jack Lambert]

We have been to more Bowl games because of our defense then because of our offense. Even croom got to a bowl game with a good defense.

[HancockCountyDog]

I'm basically 100% confident that our offense is ahead of where it was at this point last year. As such, the defense must be looking pretty salty...

I really think the OSU game is going to be a showcase game for our defense. I know some are worried about IT, but I think it will shine a light on the talent on our defense for the entire country to see.

At the end of the day, you can't buy that publicity and when we win that game, our schedule sets up great for an early season run.

[SignalToNoise]

I look forward to seeing an aggressive defense this year. Would also be nice to see the defensive line causing some disruption. I've forgotten what that looks like.

[messageboardsuperhero]

I look forward to seeing an aggressive defense this year. Would also be nice to see the defensive line causing some disruption. I've forgotten what that looks like.

This.

It seemed like our D-Line was borderline scared to get in the backfield and be disruptive all last year.

[Johnson85]

Unless we are working on implementing a lot of new plays to try to cater to TR's strengths, you'd think our offense would be as good or a little better than last year, so hopefully this means our D has gotten much better.

[msstate7]

Unless we are working on implementing a lot of new plays to try to cater to TR's strengths, you'd think our offense would be as good or a little better than last year, so hopefully this means our D has gotten much better.

Wonder how much is just better scheme

[codeDawg]

I don't know. I get nervous when I hear either side dominating. I get that our D should be nasty this year, but our offense shouldn't be too bad either. Hopefully they catch up. We need the O and the D to be trading blows at this point.

[CadaverDawg]

I don't know. I get nervous when I hear either side dominating. I get that our D should be nasty this year, but our offense shouldn't be too bad either. Hopefully they catch up. We need the O and the D to be trading blows at this point.

Don't forget that Malcolm was out, as was Fred Ross, which I think will be two important parts of our offense this year if healthy. Joe Morrow better step his shit up, because apparently injury is the only thing that is going to keep Ross from stealing PT if he doesn't rise up

[Irondawg]

Don't know if we're talking about the same scrimmage, but I know in the first one we apparently had a lot of drops by WR and given our inexperience there it's not totally surprising.

Here's my question going into the Okie state game. Let's say we look good moving the ball on the ground and some of the short stuff. But TR is taking a few sacks and the intermediate routes just aren't working. So we basically look like we did in the bowl game - do we insert Dak and just see what happens?

I love TR, I want him to succeed, but we just seem so better better setup to be a ground and pound team than an air it out team.

[War Machine Dawg]

Don't forget that Malcolm was out, as was Fred Ross, which I think will be two important parts of our offense this year if healthy. Joe Morrow better step his shit up, because apparently injury is the only thing that is going to keep Ross from stealing PT if he doesn't rise up

I told you, Morrow is most likely the latest Great MSU Hype Machine Bust. He's tall and fast, but that's it. I haven't seen anything from him to make me think he's a football player.

[jumbo]

I told you, Morrow is most likely the latest Great MSU Hype Machine Bust. He's tall and fast, but that's it. I haven't seen anything from him to make me think he's a football player.

having a legitimate WR coach for an entire year is going to be huge for Morrow. I'm not saying he is going to come out and have 1000 yards this year, but I think he starts to show the potential everyone said he had

[Coach34]

I love TR, I want him to succeed, but we just seem so better better setup to be a ground and pound team than an air it out team.

I think there will certainly be a quicker trigger in 2013- if needed

[CadaverDawg]

Don't know if we're talking about the same scrimmage, but I know in the first one we apparently had a lot of drops by WR and given our inexperience there it's not totally surprising.

Here's my question going into the Okie state game. Let's say we look good moving the ball on the ground and some of the short stuff. But TR is taking a few sacks and the intermediate routes just aren't working. So we basically look like we did in the bowl game - do we insert Dak and just see what happens?

I love TR, I want him to succeed, but we just seem so better better setup to be a ground and pound team than an air it out team.

I agree with you, and we SHOULD bring Dak in in that situation....but Goat will say that we're crazy.

Goat even said that "Mullen only does what's in the best interest of the offense...he's not just trying to play towards the Sr QB"(paraphrasing, Goat).....but I say BS, or else we would have seen Dak in several games down the stretch last year and especially the Northwestern game after Russell's 3rd pick. Hopefully since he doesn't have to worry about Russell leaving or something, he can have a quicker hook this year if things start going bad for the O. Or best case scenario, Tyler lights it up this year and Dak gets lots of PT when we are up BIG in several games. Should be interesting.

[CadaverDawg]

having a legitimate WR coach for an entire year is going to be huge for Morrow. I'm not saying he is going to come out and have 1000 yards this year, but I think he starts to show the potential everyone said he had

I think so too, and I really hope so because he has the size to be a force. I also think the young guys competing for PT will really force Morrow to step up his game. I just haven't seen that aggressiveness from him the few times I've seen him. If you are that big, you have to go after the football like it's yours and nobody else's, but he plays a soft brand of WR from what I've seen so far.

[HancockCountyDog]

I told you, Morrow is most likely the latest Great MSU Hype Machine Bust. He's tall and fast, but that's it. I haven't seen anything from him to make me think he's a football player.

Im hearing that the the freshman are going to pass him on the depth chart by mid season.

[engie]

Wonder how much is just better scheme

Most of it. Better scheme and players actually playing in position for the most part...