Football Scheduling

[Really Clark?]

With Bama's schedule, they made the playoff with an 11-1 record. With the schedule MSU played, there was never any serious thought of getting in the playoff with an 11-1 record. That fits into the category of lacking if you ask me. While the 3 week run of LSU, Aubbie, and TAMU was impressive at the time, they all finished 8-5 i believe

Ohio State made it with a loss to Va Tech. A 6-6 ACC school. All of our up coming opponents have had as good or better recent success. Your theory doesn't hold.

[CadaverDawg]

Call me crazy, but this thread was started by 2 Ole Missus fans. They ain't fooling me, good plan though...talk to each other to make it seem legit.

Anyone wanting to beef up a schedule consisting of Bama, Auburn, LSU, A&M, and Ark plus East teams, is nuts.

Look at our schedule vs the weaker schedule OM has this season...we should schedule as weak of an OOC schedule as we are allowed, bc we don't need any help from OOC opponents to beef up our SOS.

[Really Clark?]

With Bama's schedule, they made the playoff with an 11-1 record. With the schedule MSU played, there was never any serious thought of getting in the playoff with an 11-1 record. That fits into the category of lacking if you ask me. While the 3 week run of LSU, Aubbie, and TAMU was impressive at the time, they all finished 8-5 i believe

I forgot the part about no serious discussion about us getting in the playoff at 11-1. Did you completely miss the week leading up to the EB where we were still #4 and multiple pundits, ESPN, etc discussing our chances vs TCU, Baylor, and OSU. Which one of us were going to make it in and which ones where out of the playoff? You missed a lot during the month of November for a State fan.

[sandwolf]

I've always been a fan of scheduling real teams. We schedule 4 pansies in hopes to get 1 more game that we hope is a team worth playing. I'd rather just go ahead and schedule a season opener with a real team. You get the effect of a bowl game for free.

No, you don't. Going to a bowl game gives you an extra month of practice time (a lot of which is focused on developing the younger players) and it makes for a much easier sell to recruits. It is incredibly important that we continue to go to bowls every year.....that should be the number one goal when it comes to scheduling. We play multiple top 10 teams every year in some of the toughest environments in college football......there is no reason to make the regular season schedule any tougher than it already is.

[mullenman]

Well that settles it. I and everyone else who agreed with my point of view must be a black bear. I'll refrain from opening anymore logic based discussions. I'll stop hoping MSU aspires to continue be in the playoff discussion year in and year out. I'll just take what is given to me and attack anyone who has a contrary point of view.

Seriously. I said I hoped State would play a beefier schedule. Forgive me for thinking MSU wouldn't lose as many as it would win playing college football's elite.

Done.

[Dawgface]

Our schedule will be plenty tough with the addition of the new power 5 games. Can't imagine anyone would want more than that.

[Really Clark?]

Well that settles it. I and everyone else who agreed with my point of view must be a black bear. I'll refrain from opening anymore logic based discussions. I'll stop hoping MSU aspires to continue be in the playoff discussion year in and year out. I'll just take what is given to me and attack anyone who has a contrary point of view.

Seriously. I said I hoped State would play a beefier schedule. Forgive me for thinking MSU wouldn't lose as many as it would win playing college football's elite.

Done.

I don't mind you posting as much as you want. Your logic is just completely faulty and the immediate past results of last year destroys most of your thinking. Of course you didn't address any of that. You just proclaim your thought to be logical, despite the facts disproving it. And we were in the playoff discussion as of the last game of the season by more than just the fans, the pundits, media, etc. But don't let those facts get in your way of faulty logic either. Also, I think several that disagreed with you actually aspire to be national champions. Your opinion about our aspirations is like the rest of your logic in this thread, illogical.

[DancingRabbit]

Sounds like you just became a fan this year. We have to schedule at least 1 Power5 game each year. That, plus an SEC west schedule pretty much assures that we don't get penalized for SOS.

Any chance you're a Will Clark fan?

Well that settles it. I and everyone else who agreed with my point of view must be a black bear. I'll refrain from opening anymore logic based discussions. I'll stop hoping MSU aspires to continue be in the playoff discussion year in and year out. I'll just take what is given to me and attack anyone who has a contrary point of view.

Seriously. I said I hoped State would play a beefier schedule. Forgive me for thinking MSU wouldn't lose as many as it would win playing college football's elite.

Done.

[DancingRabbit]

I agree. I liked the Power 5 scheduling rule and hope it eventually leads to some home and home series. A conference vs conference series would be even better, nice thought.

I think your wish will come true.

[confucius say]

Well that settles it. I and everyone else who agreed with my point of view must be a black bear. I'll refrain from opening anymore logic based discussions. I'll stop hoping MSU aspires to continue be in the playoff discussion year in and year out. I'll just take what is given to me and attack anyone who has a contrary point of view.

Seriously. I said I hoped State would play a beefier schedule. Forgive me for thinking MSU wouldn't lose as many as it would win playing college football's elite.

Done.

No keep posting. I like different view points. But, only one person agreed with you, not "everyone else." And to dispel the claim that you are a bear, try using "we" or "our" instead of "state" and "msu." In all of your posts on this thread, you use state and msu instead of we. That is suspicious.

[Todd4State]

Call me a dreamer, but couldn't Mullen be pulling a Gary Patterson with an 11-1 or even 10-2 schedule in the next few years? SEC West didn't impress in bowls this year and I fear the committee could hold it against SEC teams. Outside of "Saint Nick's" that is.

Nope. We were number one. If we had beaten Bama and then won the Egg Bowl we would have been in the BCS playoff. I don't think the committee will hold one year against the league.

[Todd4State]

No, you don't. Going to a bowl game gives you an extra month of practice time (a lot of which is focused on developing the younger players) and it makes for a much easier sell to recruits. It is incredibly important that we continue to go to bowls every year.....that should be the number one goal when it comes to scheduling. We play multiple top 10 teams every year in some of the toughest environments in college football......there is no reason to make the regular season schedule any tougher than it already is.

This guy gets it.

Our goal should be to have seven home games a year. I don't like the power five rule- I don't like the SEC telling us what to do and how to do it because Nick Saban didn't like our schedule.

If Memphis ever joins the Big 12 we should play them. If the service academies are approved by the SEC (which they are for Vanderbilt at least so there is precedent), we should schedule them home and home as well.

I would be fine with a schedule like this:

Jackson State/Alcorn/Valley (assuming they meet the standards for a win to count towards a bowl of course)
Army/Navy/Air Force
Tulane/Memphis/USM/Louisiana Tech/South Alabama
Sun Belt team

And before I get railed about USM- I think we should play them twice every five to six years max.

[Todd4State]

Well that settles it. I and everyone else who agreed with my point of view must be a black bear. I'll refrain from opening anymore logic based discussions. I'll stop hoping MSU aspires to continue be in the playoff discussion year in and year out. I'll just take what is given to me and attack anyone who has a contrary point of view.

Seriously. I said I hoped State would play a beefier schedule. Forgive me for thinking MSU wouldn't lose as many as it would win playing college football's elite.

Done.

Playing a power five team costs us more money than the way we have been scheduling. There's no doubt about that. Especially since every power five school KNOWS that we have to schedule at least one. If we went for someone like Wake Forest or Kansas, they would absolutely gouge us. Then there is the cost of not having a home game- and it's hard to put a number on that because there is so much money that goes to the Golden Triangle region on a football weekend. And then there are travel costs for the team, cheerleaders, band, university officials, etc.

[Dawgcentral]

Call me crazy, but this thread was started by 2 Ole Missus fans. They ain't fooling me, good plan though...talk to each other to make it seem legit.

Anyone wanting to beef up a schedule consisting of Bama, Auburn, LSU, A&M, and Ark plus East teams, is nuts.

Look at our schedule vs the weaker schedule OM has this season...we should schedule as weak of an OOC schedule as
we are allowed, bc we don't need any help from OOC opponents to beef up our SOS.

Exactly. Continue beating Auburn, LSU, and TA&M and you're in the mix. Those teams might slip now and then, but consistently winning two of those three and picking off another power west team now and then puts you in the national spotlight.

Mullen wants to win the west. Do that, with the additional win over an Arizona or BYU and you're in the discussion as a national power program. This is what you build on.

[BulldogBear]

No keep posting. I like different view points. But, only one person agreed with you, not "everyone else." And to dispel the claim that you are a bear, try using "we" or "our" instead of "state" and "msu." In all of your posts on this thread, you use state and msu instead of we. That is suspicious.

Yes. It would help the trolling effort. Everybody refers to State in the third person some, but mostly in the first. Inevitably, they slip to way too much third person. It's really too easy to spot the average bear troll's backhanded negatively as they choose a seemingly benign topic to start commenting on with their inevitable user name that includes Mullen, *******, bullpup or some similar sheit. Check for members over a few posts and see if anybody is Mullen this or Mullen that Before picking your username.

[Political Hack]

I hear we're picking up UAB as our 4th OOC game.***

I would love to play 1 SWAC team a year from MS/AL/LA, but mostly from Mississippi. Play 1 or 2 from Tulane, Memphis, Troy, LaTech, UL Monroe, Houston, GaState, etc... Then add a mid tier Power 5 school like Iowa, Arizona, Oregon St, Cal, Wake, North Carolina, BC, etc...

In short we need to think geographically about who we schedule. We should try to keep MS, LA, AL, GA, TX, and TN schools on our schedule. Maybe FL too. Then we should have 1 power five game out of region that would give us expanded exposure.

[Bass Chaser]

I hear we're picking up UAB as our 4th OOC game.***

I would love to play 1 SWAC team a year from MS/AL/LA, but mostly from Mississippi. Play 1 or 2 from Tulane, Memphis, Troy, LaTech, UL Monroe, Houston, GaState, etc... Then add a mid tier Power 5 school like Iowa, Arizona, Oregon St, Cal, Wake, North Carolina, BC, etc...

In short we need to think geographically about who we schedule. We should try to keep MS, LA, AL, GA, TX, and TN schools on our schedule. Maybe FL too. Then we should have 1 power five game out of region that would give us expanded exposure.

I like this and I want one pansie/cupcake scheduled before OM just like Bama and Auburn do.

[engie]

Yeah -- averaging a top 10 schedule difficulty over the past decade isn't nearly tough enough scheduling. We really need to get Ohio St and Oregon(back) in here**

[mullenman]

I fully intended on being done. What can I say. I've been baited back.

First: The whole "we" thing. I've always been a believer that you have to earn the right to say "we" and "our". You have to pursue academics or athletics at a school in order to say "we" did this or "our" team did that imo. I don't think, though, that one has to attend that same school in order for it to his/her favorite team and be able to discuss it. I'm just not going to use "we" "our" "us" etc to discuss MSU when I didn't attend. It is what it is.

Second: Yes. I have Mullen as a part of my username. While Sherrill may have more wins, Mullen has surpassed him and any other coach of my generation. If the coach that follows Mullen continues his success, it will be due in large part to Mullen's contributions. Whether Dan leaves Starkvegas on good terms or not, I'll still be a Mullen man. Call it a man crush. Call it what you will.

Third: I appreciate those of you who read the entire thread before commenting. I am aware of the Power 5 rule.. I am disappointed in the teams we have schedule since it went into effect. Not impressed with NC State. I also did not mean, though I can see how it can be read that way, that everyone but one person agreed with me. Only that multiple posters liked the idea of scheduling big time OOC games. One of these was also brashly accused of being a black bear.

Fourth: To sum up my statements and likely be done with this thread (though not this site). I think in order to remain nationally relevant, state needs big OOC games. I do not think, even with an egg bowl win, state would have been given serious consideration for the playoff. 2 teams out of Baylor, TCU, and OSU would have needed to lose in order for that to happen. We know how that turned out. I didn't miss the month of November. I alluded to Gary Patterson..maybe that was missed. His Horned Frogs were #3 and smoked Iowa State (if memory serves..I know they won their finale by 50-ish), yet were dropped all the way to 6. Staying with the facts, State was likely not going to jump TCU with an Egg Bowl win. Mullen might have gotten them to 6th and TCU 7th, but no better. You just are not being realistic if you're saying State was going to be ahead of some combination of Baylor, FSU, OSU, and TCU and get into the playoff. I think bigger OOC games add exposure (to recruits, prospective students, media), widen (not lessen) your margin for error, grow your fan base, strengthen your SOS (which the committee considers and we should as well) and make more money. You don't have to pay a chump school. There are teams willing to play a home and home with State. Trump card: Texas went to TSUN. The revenue generated for the GTA by a Texas level program would far exceed that of JSU, MSVS, or even USM. It is my OPINION that State should continue expanding its footprint. Worst case scenario, evidently, is that State loses a game it is "supposed" to lose. Best case: State could jump a Baylor-type team that had a weak nonconference schedule and/or no conference championship.

[Coach34]

Well that settles it. I and everyone else who agreed with my point of view must be a black bear. I'll refrain from opening anymore logic based discussions. I'll stop hoping MSU aspires to continue be in the playoff discussion year in and year out.

Done.

We were in the playoff discussion- UNTIL we lost to Ole Missus. There is no telling what would have happened had we beaten Ole Missus in Oxford to finish 11-1. Not sure why your panties are in a wad BearShark?