Rick Ray gets another head job before Stands

[Ifyouonlyknew]

All I know he was up for the job at Auburn until they decided to recontact the one they hired. Bama I don't know and don't give a shit about those assholes..

Apples to apples, I bet Stans is being paid more as an assoc head coach than Ray as a head coach.

Geezer is on a cruise in the pacific getting his batteries charged back up.

You're a long time MSU supporter & for that I give you the utmost respect. I do have a question that I think I already know the answer to. With the Ben Howland hire is it safe to say that everybody is back on board with MSU Hoops that need to be on board?

[Political Hack]

Associate Head Coach at Texas A&M > Head Coach of SE Missouri State

And it ain't even close...

[Political Hack]

You're a long time MSU supporter & for that I give you the utmost respect. I do have a question that I think I already know the answer to. With the Ben Howland hire is it safe to say that everybody is back on board with MSU Hoops that need to be on board?

Not to put words in SD's mouth, but yes.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Not to put words in SD's mouth, but yes.

Yea I've heard that from some major guys everybody was back pulling in the same direction but wanted to get SD opinion.

[Coach34]

I'm just yanking ya'lls chain some on the RR hire

Stands is in a tough position though and it sux for him. He has been breaking his neck trying to get a big job and just can't- and he refuses to take a lower mid-major job like Brady did. He will either stick it out the rest of his career as an addy like David Hobbs did after Bama fired him- or he will eventually see the writing on the wall and take a lower level job

[dawgs]

I do wish ray the best. This is the kinda HC job he should have had all along to fine tune his style and get his feet wet, then if he had some good success, he would have become a target for a power conference job.

[confucius say]

I do wish ray the best. This is the kinda HC job he should have had all along to fine tune his style and get his feet wet, then if he had some good success, he would have become a target for a power conference job.

Yep, he dated the girl who is a 7-8 before the girl who is a 4. Fine for a baller, but too advanced for a beginner.

[notsofarawaydawg]

SE BUMFUKT isnt a mid major. he makes way more as ass. head at a&m. which proly pisses coach off pretty bad. his relentless shit about stans wont ever get a big job.. stans got a bigger job than KJS ever got after he quit retired. this is cros sports but it works. so in C34 eyes KJS is shitty now. hell after we fired him he got no job at all. HE MUST BE TERIBAD

Now that's talking some shit saying Coach is relentless after all the shit I read on here about Ray the past 3 years. Pot calling kettle BLACK.

Oh yeah, DAWG61, you are one to be saying anything about a color reference someone else posts on this board. You only see one color as good and the other as bad. SMH

[smootness]

Don't get this constant ragging on Stans. It's ridiculous to denigrate Stans for not getting jobs that he's not even interested in. Regardless, he's still the best head coach we've ever had in basketball. He just is.

What?! Where did I denigrate Stans?

[smootness]

The associate head coach at Kansas took the head job at Florida Gulf Coast a couple years ago. Again, if you can wait and get a better head job, then being an assistant at A&M is better than making the move to SEMS. But if you can't, then the head job is better.

But it's always about what head job you can get, at least for anyone trying to advance in their career.

[drunkernhelldawg]

What?! Where did I denigrate Stans?

Maybe I took it wrongly, but you said that the head coach of a mid major is superior to an assistant at a major conference. Maybe you weren't placing Ray over Stans there. Also, my post addresses the whole thread, not just your post. Some are creating this mythology that Stans is desperate for a HC position. I personally see Stans as the one sitting pretty is this mess we've made of our basketball program. I'm sure that many disagree with me on that. That's fine too.

[RougeDawg]

Assistant at A&M is light years ahead of Head coach at directional Missouri . End of story.

[dawgs]

The associate head coach at Kansas took the head job at Florida Gulf Coast a couple years ago. Again, if you can wait and get a better head job, then being an assistant at A&M is better than making the move to SEMS. But if you can't, then the head job is better.

But it's always about what head job you can get, at least for anyone trying to advance in their career.

Meh, I do think having extensive experience as a HC in a power conference is a huge factor. A guy with no HC experience is more likely to wanna get any HC experience on his resume, whereas a guy that had at least a moderately successful stint as a HC with a power conference program doesn't necessarily need that resume booster. Stans can make more money being an associate HC, recruit, and might land a low level power program gig in a few years. I could see him at tcu in a few years if he continues to work the Texas recruiting trail for a&m.

[msstate7]

Assistant at A&M is light years ahead of Head coach at directional Missouri . End of story.

What about an assistant job at Michigan state and VT?...

The Redhawks hired Ray after other finalists, Michigan State associate head coach Dwayne Stephens and Virginia Tech assistant coach Isaac Chew, reportedly dropped out of the running for the job.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspor...oach-rick-ray/

Virginia Tech assistant Isaac Chew and Michigan State assistant Dwayne Stephens were also finalists for the job.

http://www.semissourian.com/story/2184933.html

I take the dropping out as knowing they weren't gonna be hired

[SouthMsDawg]

I'd love to see Tookie, Endo, Strugg, and Dunlap end up there

You and me both Coach. Especially ENDO hes Dead Weight in my book.

[shannondawg]

You're a long time MSU supporter & for that I give you the utmost respect. I do have a question that I think I already know the answer to. With the Ben Howland hire is it safe to say that everybody is back on board with MSU Hoops that need to be on board?

I couldn't imagine anyone being against it.

[bluelightstar]

What about an assistant job at Michigan state and VT?...

The Redhawks hired Ray after other finalists, Michigan State associate head coach Dwayne Stephens and Virginia Tech assistant coach Isaac Chew, reportedly dropped out of the running for the job.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspor...oach-rick-ray/

Virginia Tech assistant Isaac Chew and Michigan State assistant Dwayne Stephens were also finalists for the job.

http://www.semissourian.com/story/2184933.html

I take the dropping out as knowing they weren't gonna be hired

Wrong -- SEMO beat writers acknowledge that Chew was offered and turned down the job to remain at VT.

[smootness]

How often do assistants at decent major programs get decent head coaching jobs? Rarely ever.

How often do successful mid-major coaches get them?

I don't really see how someone can argue that being an assistant at a place like VT or Texas A&M is better, career-wise, than being a head coach just about anywhere. Again, unless you're simply happy finishing your career as an assistant or can potentially get a better job by waiting another year or two.

[shannondawg]

Why is it so wrong for someone to go after a job paying 2 mil?

[confucius say]

How often do assistants at decent major programs get decent head coaching jobs? Rarely ever.

How often do successful mid-major coaches get them?

I don't really see how someone can argue that being an assistant at a place like VT or Texas A&M is better, career-wise, than being a head coach just about anywhere. Again, unless you're simply happy finishing your career as an assistant or can potentially get a better job by waiting another year or two.

Two sides to that coin. Would you take a 75% paycut to go to a job where no one has been successful? I wouldn't. I would wait on a better job or just stay where I am.