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Tookie can do better . No one from here will not transfer up there ,the place is a hell hole of a school. Plus alot of our players did not like Ray anyway.

Originally Posted by
msstate7
If Ray can convince tookie to follow him, ray could do well there. Might even get a transfer from us
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How do we know that Stansbury wants a another head coaching job. Your buddy Williams never got a another head coaching job except for the ABA. So who cares except you.

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Well, the problem is Stands is not going to get a big job- so he is going to have to take one of those jobs if he ever wants to be a HC again- so is it really better? Kinda like is it better to be the DC at State or the HC at New Mexico State?
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Originally Posted by
Treemydawg
They must have team discipline issues at SE Missouri state.
+1
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Originally Posted by
smootness
Sorry, I didn't mean that SEMS is currently a decent program, but that it's set up to be able to have some success. The OVC is a pretty good conference, and teams like Murray State and Belmont have been able to have success.
I don't know who has turned it down, but one of Michigan State's assistants is a finalist.
Ultimately, it's about what other jobs you can get. Being a head coach is better than being an assistant, and if you can't get a better head job, then HC at SEMS is better than an assistant at A&M.
Put it this way - if a school like that came calling for Zeigler, could we keep him here if he had no other head coaching options? No.
100% wrong. Being a head coach is not, by default, better than an assistance head coach. Not in prestiege, not in money, not in life. If that was the case, money would never be a factor in hiring. It is. If that's the case, then all assistant coaches would be tripping over themselves to take any head coaching job no matter where it is. Money is always an issue. You take somebody who is set up to pay bills that equal 45% of their income, then money will be a factor. If your bills equal 1 million per year, then you don't take a job that pays less than.
Yes, we could retain Zeigler and would in this case.
Second, you don't know the situation of Stansbury. He may have taken the position to be able to take over there. Maybe he took the position to get better stay in the game, to learn Texas, and wait for a job he wants.
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http://www.semissourian.com/story/2184933.html Interesting: I watched Ray's press conference at SEMS , and their athletic director said in his opening statements that he talked to Stricklin, who gave high words on Rick Ray and that's part of the reason why he hired him. Maybe that's normal, but I was caught off guard
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Originally Posted by
Goat from MSU
Tookie can do better . No one from here will not transfer up there ,the place is a hell hole of a school. Plus alot of our players did not like Ray anyway.
You know jack ****ing shit about that school and town. Cape Girardeau is a lovely town. Much better than Kosciousko or Starkville. They just suck at sports at SEMO. The party scene is just fine though.
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Originally Posted by
Goat from MSU
How do we know that Stansbury wants a another head coaching job. Your buddy Williams never got a another head coaching job except for the ABA. So who cares except you.
because he is begging and calling in every favor he can to try and get one. He did it for Auburn and Bama. He had Joe Dean do everything he could for him at Auburn and Gottfried for him at Bama.
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Sorry ,The high school my daughter goes too just took some of them up there to visit .The school is a overgrown JC. The town is nice though.Bet you would not send your kid there.

Originally Posted by
missouridawg
You know jack ****ing shit about that school and town. Cape Girardeau is a lovely town. Much better than Kosciousko or Starkville. They just suck at sports at SEMO. The party scene is just fine though.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
and Gottfried for him at Bama.
Well there is one of his problems. Probably not the best of ideas to have a head coach previously fired at a school put in a good word for you to get the same job.
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Sure we all believe you ,hope your sources is not your head in the ass friend.

Originally Posted by
Coach34
because he is begging and calling in every favor he can to try and get one. He did it for Auburn and Bama. He had Joe Dean do everything he could for him at Auburn and Gottfried for him at Bama.
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Originally Posted by
MaxedOutMaroon
http://www.semissourian.com/story/2184933.html Interesting: I watched Ray's press conference at SEMS , and their athletic director said in his opening statements that he talked to Stricklin, who gave high words on Rick Ray and that's part of the reason why he hired him. Maybe that's normal, but I was caught off guard
Not sure why this would be surprising. If Stricklin could operate in a vacuum I'm pretty confident Rick Ray would still be head coach at MSU.
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Ask Shannondawg or Dawggeezer- they both know I'm right
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I don't see them coming on here and backing you up. Shannon , Dawg where are you?? Sure just what I thought. You need to stick to football and baseball.

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Ask Shannondawg or Dawggeezer- they both know I'm right
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lol- they are old. Let them get their diapers changed. They will be around.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Not sure why this would be surprising. If Stricklin could operate in a vacuum I'm pretty confident Rick Ray would still be head coach at MSU.
You're completely wrong.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
Ray deserved another shot somewhere, and I'm glad he go it.
And I don't really care, but a head job at a decent mid major is better than an assistant job at a decent major conference school. It just is.
Don't get this constant ragging on Stans. It's ridiculous to denigrate Stans for not getting jobs that he's not even interested in. Regardless, he's still the best head coach we've ever had in basketball. He just is.
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Stans could get a mid-major job

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Well, the problem is Stands is not going to get a big job- so he is going to have to take one of those jobs if he ever wants to be a HC again
He could have had the Northern Kentucky job if he wanted it. If he REALLy wants to be be a head coach, there won't be a shortage of mid-major opportunities. He just isn't getting any bites for high-majors and probably won't unless he goes and does well at a mid-major.
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All I know he was up for the job at Auburn until they decided to recontact the one they hired. Bama I don't know and don't give a shit about those assholes..
Apples to apples, I bet Stans is being paid more as an assoc head coach than Ray as a head coach.
Geezer is on a cruise in the pacific getting his batteries charged back up.
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Originally Posted by
shannondawg
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Apples to apples, I bet Stans is being paid more as an assoc head coach than Ray as a head coach.
Close to triple.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
No I dont. 4 hiring cycles and no head job. For example- Bama. Bama hires a guy that hasn't coached college basketball for one day rather make him HC- but they want him there to recruit. AD's and the like view him as an Asst- not a head guy
Oh come on, I'm far from a stans defender, but it's obviously he hasn't pursued or shown any interest in coaching this level of basketball. Alabama hired a former NBA head coach, don't downplay it like they hired a nobody.
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