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Originally Posted by
GTHOM
If we can get just average safety play we will be fine. Just average, dont blow your assignment, come down and make a tackle or two. Dont have to be all sec or even good, just average. Anything beats last years safety play, not all on the players though, our DC quit on us or just flat out sucked
we play a cover two formation with our CBs in outside leverage. If we're giving up big pass plays with that, we've some serious, serious issues.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
we play a cover two formation with our CBs in outside leverage. If we're giving up big pass plays with that, we've some serious, serious issues.
Agreed, that was my point.
And the sad thing is we did do that last year, our coaches didnt do us any favors by sitting in a cover 2 in the biggest game of the year either.
Oh yeah and zach jackson 1 on 1 with slots and athletic TE's over and over again was embarassing. totally on our coaches.
Nothing against jackson hes going to play this year i just dont want to see that ever ever again
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Our defense may not be much improved until 2016. But I think the safety group will be a strong suit in the following 2 to 3 seasons. I'm more worried about getting pressure to the qb this year.
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Originally Posted by
Bothrops
Our defense may not be much improved until 2016. But I think the safety group will be a strong suit in the following 2 to 3 seasons. I'm more worried about getting pressure to the qb this year.
I dont expect Manny to stand around with his thumb in his ass and just rush the front 4 to get pressure
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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I'm glad we got Manny, I think he will bring the D around, in time.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
we play a cover two formation with our CBs in outside leverage. If we're giving up big pass plays with that, we've some serious, serious issues.
The over the top help was an issue with 1bs. Majorly out of position. Alot
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I will admit that Evans got burned more than Coman, but I don't care for either one of them. Just because one guy is horrible and one is below average doesn't make the below average guy awesome.
And let's not forget that Coman made the biggest tackle in the Egg Bowl- on our very own Chris Jones who was about to tackle the Ole Miss RB for a loss before said tackle took out Jones and allowed a 90+ yard TD run.
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Irvin-Sills, Coman, and Evans all have experience. Market & Bryant will help too. Then we're injecting two very talented guys for immediate depth if needed. Our CBs are good enough to not need a man over the top in a lot of match ups this year too. We can go zero coverage on the outside with outside leverage and not worry about giving up the big play. We're going to make the safeties jobs easy.
Also, we have two OLBs that we can send in, make it look like we're in a 4-3, and drop into what amounts to a nickle package. Our LB group personnel is so versatile it's going to take some of the pressure off the S's and the DE's.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
Irvin-Sills, Coman, and Evans all have experience. Market & Bryant will help too. Then we're injecting two very talented guys for immediate depth if needed. Our CBs are good enough to not need a man over the top in a lot of match ups this year too. We can go zero coverage on the outside with outside leverage and not worry about giving up the big play. We're going to make the safeties jobs easy.
Also, we have two OLBs that we can send in, make it look like we're in a 4-3, and drop into what amounts to a nickle package. Our LB group personnel is so versatile it's going to take some of the pressure off the S's and the DE's.
You really think so? Consistently? I wish it was that way
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
Irvin-Sills, Coman, and Evans all have experience. Market & Bryant will help too. Then we're injecting two very talented guys for immediate depth if needed. Our CBs are good enough to not need a man over the top in a lot of match ups this year too. We can go zero coverage on the outside with outside leverage and not worry about giving up the big play. We're going to make the safeties jobs easy.
Also, we have two OLBs that we can send in, make it look like we're in a 4-3, and drop into what amounts to a nickle package. Our LB group personnel is so versatile it's going to take some of the pressure off the S's and the DE's.
Totally agree with Redmond, but I'm not convinced on the other side.
I'm still having flashbacks of Ga Tech running two plays for like a million yards.
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We matched up a 5'8" corner on a 6'5" WR. They may as well have asked me to cover him.
Will is going to be about as "shut-down" as you can get in Manny's defense. We don't take away the underneath stuff so they'll be taught to give that up, but go back and watch the Bama game to get a feeling of how dominate he can be in a game. Saban and Kiffin didn't test a single time. Not once. They even ran away from his side. They attacked the safeties and stayed away from our play makers.
Overall, I think our CBs are going to be much, much better this season. Will will get more than 50% of the snaps now. Cleveland is long and athletic. He'll be solid with outside leverage. And we get Jiles back too. Plus we're adding an elite athlete like Smokey to the package. We should be pretty damn good outside... as in top half of the SEC West type good.
Safeties, DL depth, and Kicker is where we need to see them develop.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
We matched up a 5'8" corner on a 6'5" WR. They may as well have asked me to cover him.
Will is going to be about as "shut-down" as you can get in Manny's defense. We don't take away the underneath stuff so they'll be taught to give that up, but go back and watch the Bama game to get a feeling of how dominate he can be in a game. Saban and Kiffin didn't test a single time. Not once. They even ran away from his side. They attacked the safeties and stayed away from our play makers.
Overall, I think our CBs are going to be much, much better this season. Will will get more than 50% of the snaps now. Cleveland is long and athletic. He'll be solid with outside leverage. And we get Jiles back too. Plus we're adding an elite athlete like Smokey to the package. We should be pretty damn good outside... as in top half of the SEC West type good.
Safeties, DL depth, and Kicker is where we need to see them develop.
You didn't even mention the other starting CB. Calhoun & Redmond will be 1 of the top CB duos in the SEC.
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Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
You didn't even mention the other starting CB. Calhoun & Redmond will be 1 of the top CB duos in the SEC.
very true. I almost didn't mention Will either, but then went back and added him. Those two are going to be pretty reliable and take over 65%+ of the snaps on the outside I'd imagine.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
We matched up a 5'8" corner on a 6'5" WR. They may as well have asked me to cover him.
Will is going to be about as "shut-down" as you can get in Manny's defense. We don't take away the underneath stuff so they'll be taught to give that up, but go back and watch the Bama game to get a feeling of how dominate he can be in a game. Saban and Kiffin didn't test a single time. Not once. They even ran away from his side. They attacked the safeties and stayed away from our play makers.
Overall, I think our CBs are going to be much, much better this season. Will will get more than 50% of the snaps now. Cleveland is long and athletic. He'll be solid with outside leverage. And we get Jiles back too. Plus we're adding an elite athlete like Smokey to the package. We should be pretty damn good outside... as in top half of the SEC West type good.
Safeties, DL depth, and Kicker is where we need to see them develop.
Yeah, Cleveland is long and athletic, but hopefully he will learn to tackle instead of trying to push a guy out of bounds like he did in the Kentucky game.
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Originally Posted by
NCDawg
Yeah, Cleveland is long and athletic, but hopefully he will learn to tackle instead of trying to push a guy out of bounds like he did in the Kentucky game.
that's the difference between a young talented guy that hasn't played a lot of snaps and an old experienced guy who has.
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Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
You didn't even mention the other starting CB. Calhoun & Redmond will be 1 of the top CB duos in the SEC.
Agree... And everyone forgets about Jiles... If he stays health he is an SEC corner.... Also don't sleep on Jamoral at CB.. He is going to push hard to get playing time.....
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Originally Posted by
NCDawg
Yeah, Cleveland is long and athletic, but hopefully he will learn to tackle instead of trying to push a guy out of bounds like he did in the Kentucky game.
He's caught wayyyy too much grief about one blown play in a game we won. Cleveland hasn't messed up much -- and he sure wasn't picked on any more than any of our other DBs last year...
It's going to be glorious to behold just how good Will and Calhoun can be when they can jump routes knowing they have safety help over the top...
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Originally Posted by
engie
He's caught wayyyy too much grief about one blown play in a game we won. Cleveland hasn't messed up much -- and he sure wasn't picked on any more than any of our other DBs last year...
It's going to be glorious to behold just how good Will and Calhoun can be when they can jump routes knowing they have safety help over the top...
fingers crossed.....
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Originally Posted by
engie
He's caught wayyyy too much grief about one blown play in a game we won. Cleveland hasn't messed up much -- and he sure wasn't picked on any more than any of our other DBs last year...
It's going to be glorious to behold just how good Will and Calhoun can be when they can jump routes knowing they have safety help over the top...
This. Cleveland is going to be a stud.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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Quote from a coach from high school in Louisiana today that was at our practice..
Oline looks stout
We have big athletic dudes here
Lots of speed
Very impressed
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