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    Baseball - make your lineup and defend it

    vs. righty and lefties if you want but I'm just saying let's go with this most nights and if you want to mix in Robinson and Vickerson some that's fine. And collins will obviously need to not catch every game.

    1)Robson (CF) - If you want to play small ball and have speed change the game - he's at the top and he runs a lot
    2)Brown (LF) - good batting eye, has some decent speed and
    3)Collins (C) - he's our best overall hitter
    4)Humphreys (1B) - Our best HR threat and the move to 1B shouldn't be that bad since he's an INF by trait
    5)Rooker (DH) - time to see if he can provide a power threat with more AB. He can't be worse than Wes
    6)Holland (2B)- seems to be coming around
    7)gridley (SS) - struggled lately, but I'll keep him at SS for the experience
    8)Swinarski (RF) - he's either good or he's not - let's find out
    9)Heck (3B) - I could make a case for just benching him as well, but let's keep the glove in there at 3B

    We can't be worse and at this point I don't mind benching Rea b/c I think Hump can adequately replace his glove. Maybe i'm wrong there. the only other guys who should get AB's are vickerson, Robinson, Rea.

    But it's time to see if a few of these young guys have anything in the tank or not.

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    Brown
    Gridley (ss)
    Collins
    Hump (dh)
    Holland
    Rea
    Heck (3b)
    Smith/Vick
    Robson

    If we're gonna bunt with the 2-hole every time, might as well put one of our weaker hitters there.

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    The youngest players on our team or anyone that is hungry enough to want to play hard and win is the line up I go with.
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    Rea needs to be in the lineup and on 1B period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Rea needs to be in the lineup and on 1B period.
    Why? He hit .209 in conference last year and is well below that this year. When you are winning 3-2 you can make the argument that the defense is worth it. When you are losing, that argument doesn't hold much merit. I love the guy but we've got to find a way to score more runs right now.

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    1. Robson CF
    2. Brown RF
    3. Collins C
    4. Humphreys 1B
    5. Walker DH
    6. Holland 2B
    7. Vickerson LF
    8. Gridley SS
    9. Heck 3B


    I don't know where Humphreys is projected to play in the future, but he needs to be there. Rooker hasn't done anything since February, and I would like to give Cody Walker some ABs in the DH spot. He's stocky and has a better chance to run into one than any of the other random JUCOs.

    I don't think it matters, really. We are at the point where we need a spectacular pitching performance to even have a chance.

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    robson
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    hump(dh)
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    rea
    Holland
    gridley
    heck
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    Robson - gets on base
    Brown - handles bat well and high average. Hit and run more instead of bunting or just straight steal with robson.
    Collins
    Hump
    Rea - saves at least an error a game bc he is best defensive first baseman in league by far
    Gridley (ss)
    Holland
    Heck
    Vickerson/smith - both can run and you get a double lead-off

    Pinch hit with rooker if you need a bomb, Reynolds if you need base runners (walks a ton).

    Oh, and did swinarski quit or smn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    Why? He hit .209 in conference last year and is well below that this year. When you are winning 3-2 you can make the argument that the defense is worth it. When you are losing, that argument doesn't hold much merit. I love the guy but we've got to find a way to score more runs right now.
    He's one of our better clutch hitters and has the power to reach deep into the outfield. On a hot day, he can hr at DNF. He's also our best first baseman. Wasn't he the reason we beat Auburn on Sunday? At least part of the reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    He's one of our better clutch hitters and has the power to reach deep into the outfield. On a hot day, he can hr at DNF. He's also our best first baseman. Wasn't he the reason we beat Auburn on Sunday? At least part of the reason.
    One of the reasons. I'd say Tatum and fitts played a bigger part

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    I thought he hit a stand up rbi double in that game. Guess I'm thinking of another game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    I thought he hit a stand up rbi double in that game. Guess I'm thinking of another game.
    He did. We scored 3 runs total though so I think pitching was what won it

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    Wes made his contribution for the win, and I'm making mine against Irondawg's argument that he should be benched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Wes made his contribution for the win, and I'm making mine against Irondawg's argument that he should be benched.
    Yeah he did. I'd play Wes too. If we continue to lose though, I'd be tempted to play hump at 1st if that's where we want him next season

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    Hump is another obligatory guy in our hitting lineup. He's a slugger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Wes made his contribution for the win, and I'm making mine against Irondawg's argument that he should be benched.
    Anybody that would bench Wes really doesn't understand baseball. He leads the SEC in walks, His on base% is high. He is the best fielding 1st baseman in the league.Most of our wins are because Rea played a part in the scoring. And just who are you going to play in His spot? How much better could they be? Third base is where we need somebody and second base isn't much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    Anybody that would bench Wes really doesn't understand baseball. He leads the SEC in walks, His on base% is high. He is the best fielding 1st baseman in the league.Most of our wins are because Rea played a part in the scoring. And just who are you going to play in His spot? How much better could they be? Third base is where we need somebody and second base isn't much better.
    I think the guys wanting to bench rea are saying play for next season. I guess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    Anybody that would bench Wes really doesn't understand baseball. He leads the SEC in walks, His on base% is high. He is the best fielding 1st baseman in the league.Most of our wins are because Rea played a part in the scoring. And just who are you going to play in His spot? How much better could they be? Third base is where we need somebody and second base isn't much better.
    I'm simply having the debate. It's really Rooker vs. Rea and to me Rooker doesn't have the sample size to determine him as a hitter vs. Rea. Sure Rea has a high OB% and that's nice, but he simply can't hit SEC pitching consistently. Having our 1B drawing some walks isn't really helping the offensive output a ton.

    He is the best defensive first baseman in the SEC, that is without question and i as said if you are playing a lot of tight games the defense is magnified, but we're not. i think it's hard to evaluate the defensive impact. We have to find a way to either reduce runs substantially or score more runs. I'm admitting i don't know what we have in Rooker, but I feel Hump being a SS/3B by trait would also be an above average defensive 1B and Rooker at least has some potential to be a better run producer in the lineup.

    I can't say for sure either way is right, but I fail to see how it at least can't be an argument worth having.

    Same thing for playing Swin. some too. What do we have in these guys, so yeah part of it is play for next season, especially if we don't find a way to right the ship this weekend.
    Last edited by Irondawg; 04-02-2015 at 02:26 PM.

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    1) Robson-CF
    2) Brown-RF
    3) Collins-C
    4) Hump- 1B
    5) Gordon- DH
    6) Rooker- LF
    7) Holland- 2B
    8) Heck- SS
    9) Britton- 3B

    Off the bench:
    Vickerson
    Gridley
    Smith
    Walker

    Britton had knee surgery during the fall and Cohen has refused to play him until Kentucky. We saw what he did then. Knee flared up again the next day, didn't play. If he is healthy he should be in the lineup

    I never wanna hear about Spurill, Waddell, or Swinarski again. I've seen enough practices of Swinarski to know he can't hit anything. Another overrated guy. He might be worse then Bunky K under Polk.
    Last edited by BankerDog; 04-02-2015 at 04:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    Anybody that would bench Wes really doesn't understand baseball. He leads the SEC in walks, His on base% is high. He is the best fielding 1st baseman in the league.Most of our wins are because Rea played a part in the scoring. And just who are you going to play in His spot? How much better could they be? Third base is where we need somebody and second base isn't much better.
    Had people arguing with me in the Saturday auburn thread who were fine with starting Waddell over rea. Blew my ****ing mind. I went and looked and he leads the team in walks and over .500 obp. Has he struggled some? Yea but pretty much can be said for anyone on the team at this point. Like you, I just don't get the rea hate.
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