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    Bama is probably going to end up with a guy like Prohm- who will do a good job
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    Will Michael white get a call?

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    Prohm is a Bama alum- would think he would get the nod
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    He may not take it either ,money is not everything .The Bama job is not a great one just saying.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Prohm is a Bama alum- would think he would get the nod

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    I haven't seen anything to say Marshall declined interest in Bama at all. They felt good about landing him as of an hour ago....
    http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2...orts_index.ssf

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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    I haven't seen anything to say Marshall declined interest in Bama at all. They felt good about landing him as of an hour ago....
    http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2...orts_index.ssf
    Haha. That article referred to Marshall as potentially the biggest hire of the offseason. Sure buddy.

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    I'm not dissing shaka but why would Texas choose him over Marshall?

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    I agree on Prohm. He just won 29 games and didn't make the NCAAT. A coach's legacy is built on NCAAT appearances and success. I don't see him spending another year at Murray where he has to win his conference tournament to get into the Dance. It's time for him to take a job in a Power 5 conference for money and prestige sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    I'm not dissing shaka but why would Texas choose him over Marshall?
    I think Shaka is just a good a coach as Marshall. Also with his personality & style of play I think he'd be a better recruiter too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    I think Shaka is just a good a coach as Marshall. Also with his personality & style of play I think he'd be a better recruiter too.
    If he goes to Texas, they are going to be a powerhouse. His brand of play & their facilities and resources will attract the best talent in the country. They'll start recruiting with Kentucky within a year or two. Great athletes want to play in that non-stop defensive havoc and that run and gun style offense. He could win championships there with great athletes... they don't all have to be great basketball players.

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    I think Prohm is a bit overrated, or at least an unknown. That program has been really good since the late 80s. Gottfried, Cronin, and Billy Kennedy all had a lot of success there and didn't exactly light the world on fire once they left.

    They looked like a really, really good team his first year there, but didn't make it past the 2nd round and now haven't been back to the Tourney in the 3 years since.

    It's just a risky hire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    I haven't seen anything to say Marshall declined interest in Bama at all. They felt good about landing him as of an hour ago....
    http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2...orts_index.ssf
    I love the part about them embracing the fact that Saban speaks his mind. Uh yeah...because he wins a ton. If a coach isn't winning at an elite level and speaks his mind, the Bama fanbase will turn on him in a heartbeat.

    Although, when has Saban ever really said anything that could anger his fanbase? He knows what he's doing on that front.

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    I do like Shaka and think he's a really good coach but I'd still take Marshall I think. Maybe it's Anthony Grant's time at Bama that is tainting Shaka for me.

    It's going to be interesting to see how some of this pans out. I'm still curious why TN was so gung ho about Barnes. He's not terrible but I've never been that impressed with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    I do like Shaka and think he's a really good coach but I'd still take Marshall I think. Maybe it's Anthony Grant's time at Bama that is tainting Shaka for me.

    It's going to be interesting to see how some of this pans out. I'm still curious why TN was so gung ho about Barnes. He's not terrible but I've never been that impressed with him.
    If he couldn't put together top classes at Texas, I don't see how he's going to be expected to do that at Tennessee. He's replacing Kansas with Kentucky too, and the gap there is much, much wider. He's going to have a hard time competing in the SEC in the near future, but he could offer them some solid years and platform to build on moving forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    I do like Shaka and think he's a really good coach but I'd still take Marshall I think. Maybe it's Anthony Grant's time at Bama that is tainting Shaka for me.

    It's going to be interesting to see how some of this pans out. I'm still curious why TN was so gung ho about Barnes. He's not terrible but I've never been that impressed with him.
    Shaka's Havoc style doesn't really go in slumps but its not a style for 5* prima donnas either. If Shaka sticks to recruiting high motor athletes with high character he should do well at Texas but things change when he's suddenly pressured to land all the top talent in that state. Some of those 5* players don't fit well in his system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    If he couldn't put together top classes at Texas, I don't see how he's going to be expected to do that at Tennessee. He's replacing Kansas with Kentucky too, and the gap there is much, much wider. He's going to have a hard time competing in the SEC in the near future, but he could offer them some solid years and platform to build on moving forward.
    Getting talent has never been his problem at Texas. He's brought in 14 McDonald AA there. Only Kansas, UK, UNC, & Duke have had more during that time. Problem is he's not a good coach. Now like you said if he can't get that level of talent to TN then he definitely has a problem bc he's not coaching anybody up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Shaka's Havoc style doesn't really go in slumps but its not a style for 5* prima donnas either. If Shaka sticks to recruiting high motor athletes with high character he should do well at Texas but things change when he's suddenly pressured to land all the top talent in that state. Some of those 5* players don't fit well in his system.
    Any guard in Texas will love to play in that system. 5* down to no star. He gives his guys a lot of freedom on offense as long as they put out effort on defense. He'll do great recruiting in Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    If he couldn't put together top classes at Texas, I don't see how he's going to be expected to do that at Tennessee. He's replacing Kansas with Kentucky too, and the gap there is much, much wider. He's going to have a hard time competing in the SEC in the near future, but he could offer them some solid years and platform to build on moving forward.
    Barnes is the safe play for Tennessee. 16 of 17 years in the NCAA and no trouble with the NCAA ever that I know of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    Getting talent has never been his problem at Texas. He's brought in 14 McDonald AA there. Only Kansas, UK, UNC, & Duke have had more during that time. Problem is he's not a good coach. Now like you said if he can't get that level of talent to TN then he definitely has a problem bc he's not coaching anybody up.
    There's no doubt he's had some great kids, but like you said, it's not UK, Duke, UNC, Kansas, etc... And that was at TEXAS. They have everything they want and a huge state to do it in. If he can't land top 5 classes every year there, he's going to struggle to land top 20 classes consistently at Tennessee IMO.

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    Barnes will recruit fairly well, and he'll be a decent coach. He'll get Tennessee in the Tournament some, and he'll get them in the NIT the other years.

    He's the kind of guy who will take your program and consistently have you just a little short of your ceiling. He won't really ever take your program to what it's truly capable of, and he also won't crash and have you subpar for several years in a row.

    Tennessee will be a decent, beatable team under him pretty much every year.

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