Basketball minds - can any explain Ray's offense?

[HoopsDawg]

I think Ray has moved away from "how do win win" to "how do i shorten the game and not get blown out every night"

That's right. We really worked the shot clock last night. We passed on some open shots and ended up taking worse shots because I think he wants to see more ball movement. That's the kind of offense recruits love to play in. **

[HailState39110]

The fact that Ray is still tinkering with his starting lineup when he has a lot of guys on the roster who have been with the program 2 and 3 years tells me everything I need to know about his coaching . He has watched these guys play basketball day in a day out yet still can't figure out the lineup he needs to succeed . He should know each players strengths and weaknesses and how best to play to their strengths . He should also know by now who needs to start and who needs to come off the bench . These players do not understand their role nor have they ever been told what their role should be. That's coaching

[HereComesTheSpiral]

It is like watching 4 year olds play soccer.

[DudyDawg]

The biggest problem is we lack what every high school in America has, and that is a decent continuity motion. It isn't a play, where players are designated one move after another, it's just your basic four out one in screen away or cut off the ball based on the defense. Instead we either stand in place and swing it around the perimeter or we just sit there. Our players also lack common knowledge. I saw many times last night in semi-transition o where we would cut on top of each other, effectively making 1 be able to cover 2 guys. Multiple times we didn't understand that if they have one in the lane and we have two cutters off the ball, one needs to flare out and one needs to slash. Instead, both would run to the hoop, costing us a chance at an easy basket. Then we would get in the set (saw it at least 15 times last night) where the wings cross, one of them gets a pass and the ball side post cross screens the other post. That is the most elementary play on earth, and unless we are playing a special needs school, we will continue not to get a damn thing from it.

[Irondawg]

True but we don't set good screens either and almost never down pick or back pick to surprise a defender and open somebody up. The guards are also very lazy with the cuts and are basically just using it to move from one side to the other without trying to shake their guy off of it. It's just bad, plain and simple.

[DudyDawg]

True but we don't set good screens either and almost never down pick or back pick to surprise a defender and open somebody up. The guards are also very lazy with the cuts and are basically just using it to move from one side to the other without trying to shake their guy off of it. It's just bad, plain and simple.

Exactly. When we DO go set a screen or run a set, the screener just stands there hoping the defender runs into him and the screenee just runs up. They don't understand how to run their man into a screen, and don't understand how to get open off the ball.

[Irondawg]

And that's coaching pure and simple. Ray blew the golden ticket.

He had a two year free pass and could spend basically all his time working on the fundamentals of these guys. Instead as juniors our core guys have no idea what they are doing on the floor.