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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
If our OL class is :
Rankin - Juco Stud
Gilliam - Wake Forest
Story - Only offers are Sun Belt schools
Moon - Maybe a Ga Tech offer
Williams - Solid player, that was passed over by AU
I mean, I like Rankin, and Williams has potential - but you don't win national titles with OL's that you aren't competing with other big time schools over. Maybe Im alone on this, but its another year, and another year of OL recruits that not many teams in the SEC wanted other than Rankin.
There's some great teams that ended up ranked higher than us with similar ranked talent at OL.
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Originally Posted by
DistrictDawg92
One thing to note with this guy is that he turned 17 in August, he could be a junior in high school. Instead he is about to begin his freshman year. When he came to our camps he was a 16 year old going up against 17 and 18 year olds, which makes a difference at that age. He gets an extra semester of working out and learning technique on top of a full redshirt year. This was a good get for the Dawgs.
Wasn't Senior a similar deal as far as being very young for his class? Makes a big difference when you're trying to project which tall, skinny guy (if you want to call somebody in the mid 200's skinny) is going to be able to pack on weight and keep his athleticism. Most people's body types are still maturing at 17.
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
If our OL class is :
Rankin - Juco Stud
Gilliam - Wake Forest
Story - Only offers are Sun Belt schools
Moon - Maybe a Ga Tech offer
Williams - Solid player, that was passed over by AU
I mean, I like Rankin, and Williams has potential - but you don't win national titles with OL's that you aren't competing with other big time schools over. Maybe Im alone on this, but its another year, and another year of OL recruits that not many teams in the SEC wanted other than Rankin.
Rankin - MSU, OKL, FLA, KY, L'VILLE, MIZZ, OHIO ST, OM, TEXAS, KANSAS
Williams - MSU, AUB, KY, FSU, L'VILLE
Gilliam - MSU, WF, KY, L'VILLE, USC(E)
Moon - MSU, GT, USF
Story - MSU, Troy, ULL, MTSU
I'm not sitting here saying that this is the greatest OL Class in the world but considering just a year or 2 ago our whole OL class offer list looked like Story. This class is a solid OL Class. Now the key is to bring in another solid to better class next year. That's good recruiting & what we need to do.
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
If our OL class is :
Rankin - Juco Stud
Gilliam - Wake Forest
Story - Only offers are Sun Belt schools
Moon - Maybe a Ga Tech offer
Williams - Solid player, that was passed over by AU
I mean, I like Rankin, and Williams has potential - but you don't win national titles with OL's that you aren't competing with other big time schools over. Maybe Im alone on this, but its another year, and another year of OL recruits that not many teams in the SEC wanted other than Rankin.
No, you're not alone. We might as well accept the fact that we aren't going to be able to get the big name offensive lineman recruit with this coaching staff. It happens this way year after year.
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Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
Rankin - MSU, OKL, FLA, KY, L'VILLE, MIZZ, OHIO ST, OM, TEXAS, KANSAS
Williams - MSU, AUB, KY, FSU, L'VILLE
Gilliam - MSU, WF, KY, L'VILLE, USC(E)
Moon - MSU, GT, USF
Story - MSU, Troy, ULL, MTSU
I'm not sitting here saying that this is the greatest OL Class in the world but considering just a year or 2 ago our whole OL class offer list looked like Story. This class is a solid OL Class. Now the key is to bring in another solid to better class next year. That's good recruiting & what we need to do.
Look, Im not going to argue with you about kids and offers - but we both know Williams doesn't have an AU offer. We know this because the kid basically told anyone that would listen that he would go to AU if they offered him.
I guess it is true that compared to two years ago, this OL class looks good. Im not sure if that makes me happy or sad.
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
Look, Im not going to argue with you about kids and offers - but we both know Williams doesn't have an AU offer. We know this because the kid basically told anyone that would listen that he would go to AU if they offered him.
I guess it is true that compared to two years ago, this OL class looks good. Im not sure if that makes me happy or sad.
Yea I'm not saying he could commit to Auburn today bc we both know he can't. But I'm not going to say he couldn't at 1 time commit to Auburn bc he could've back in the summer but waited too late. Like you say on offers it's hard to know what's real or not bc you don't know until a kid tries to commit. Again not saying we have an awesome OL Class but at 1 time or another 3 out of a 5 possible commits had multiple SEC offers & 4 out of 5 had at least 2 Power 5 conference offers. That's a solid class IMO & a good improvement over the past.
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Originally Posted by
Bothrops
There's some great teams that ended up ranked higher than us with similar ranked talent at OL.
no shit. Check out TCU's OL ratings and get back to me. They handled Fredo's OL pretty damn well. Nothing is wrong with our OL talent. We whipped Auburn, LSU, and A&M's ass with it. Our offense had 300 yards on Bama in the 2nd half alone. We just had some shit gameplans in the 1st halves of 2 games.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
Look, Im not going to argue with you about kids and offers - but we both know Williams doesn't have an AU offer. We know this because the kid basically told anyone that would listen that he would go to AU if they offered him.
I guess it is true that compared to two years ago, this OL class looks good. Im not sure if that makes me happy or sad.
Tommy Champion having to go to Juco first really sours this HS Oline class. I think he is a legit Tackle prospect.
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
If our OL class is :
Rankin - Juco Stud
Gilliam - Wake Forest
Story - Only offers are Sun Belt schools
Moon - Maybe a Ga Tech offer
Williams - Solid player, that was passed over by AU
I mean, I like Rankin, and Williams has potential - but you don't win national titles with OL's that you aren't competing with other big time schools over. Maybe Im alone on this, but its another year, and another year of OL recruits that not many teams in the SEC wanted other than Rankin.
Barrett Sallee, is that you? Look, I understand your point and there is no doubt we have more trouble pulling in elite OL prospects than any other position BUT OL prospects are also by far the most difficult to project to the next level. So development is more important with OL than any other position. Yep, there are about 30 to 40 can't miss OL prospects out there like a Tunsil but after that it quickly becomes a crapshoot. No doubt we should improve but I have noticed in MS that the high rated OL prospects, in general, don't seem to pan out at any higher rate than slightly lower rated guys.
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Colonel Rebal is cying: " But, but, but that is not fair, how can you enroll somebody we want without him publicly committing first. We didn't even have a chance to get the bagmen and the hookers in there and flip him. I am telling you that is just plain not fair, we didn't even know y'all wanted him, how can we evaluate somebody if we don't know if MSU wants him or not. IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!!! We are going straight to the NCAA over this one, how dare you sneak one in behind our backs! IT"S JUST NOT FAIR, I"M TELLING YOU!!!
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I guess Derrick Sherrod had a ton of offers too....***
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
If our OL class is :
Rankin - Juco Stud
Gilliam - Wake Forest
Story - Only offers are Sun Belt schools
Moon - Maybe a Ga Tech offer
Williams - Solid player, that was passed over by AU
I mean, I like Rankin, and Williams has potential - but you don't win national titles with OL's that you aren't competing with other big time schools over. Maybe Im alone on this, but its another year, and another year of OL recruits that not many teams in the SEC wanted other than Rankin.
I bet the Ducks starting OL doesn't have more than one 5star recruit on it..
It's been said before and known fact that OL is the hardest position to evaluate talent .. Except for your few cant miss 5* not much difference between some of the 3* and 4*
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Wisconsin, Arkansas, and TCU do ok despite rankings.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
Wisconsin, Arkansas, and TCU do ok despite rankings.
Wisconsin has one of the best olines year-in, year-out. I have no idea what their rankings look like
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Wisconsin has one of the best olines year-in, year-out. I have no idea what their rankings look like
Their starting OL per Rivals from left to right:
Tyler Marz- 3-star
Dallas Lewallen- 3-star
Dan Voltz- 4-star
Kyle Costigan- 2-star
Rob Havenstein- 3-star
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Their starting OL per Rivals from left to right:
Tyler Marz- 3-star
Dallas Lewallen- 3-star
Dan Voltz- 4-star
Kyle Costigan- 2-star
Rob Havenstein- 3-star
The Ducks starting 5 for this game are all 3*....
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Originally Posted by
mic
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The Ducks starting 5 for this game are all 3*....
And they are getting worked. OSU has a bunch of 4 stars.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
And they are getting worked. OSU has a bunch of 4 stars.
But they slapped FSU 4 & 5 stars around I believe. And consistently doing the same to USC and UCLA for a while.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
And they are getting worked. OSU has a bunch of 4 stars.
Fla State says uhhhh, what about us? USC? UCLA? C'mon mane
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
And they are getting worked. OSU has a bunch of 4 stars.
Put up 300 yards in a half = "getting worked"?
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