Ray hasn't been fired tonight?

[CadaverDawg]

I went to eat with the Fam, and had to keep up with the score on twitter. Just got home and realized there wasn't a thread announcing Ray being fired. Is this true? If so, what do we need to do in order to get Scott Stricklin on the hot seat? This is total incompetent donkey shit. The hire was bad enough, now you add Scott allowing this steaming pile a job after what we've seen lately? Get an interim in here or something. You CANNOT allow Rick Ray to finish the year. We are getting worse by the damn game.

I'm pissed off about this. What kind of AD allows this shit to continue when it is clearly getting worse by the day? Scott, if you are truly looking out for the program, fire Ray tonight and hire an interim to get us through the year.

I have always said that it was time for Stansbury to go when we fired him....and I am NOT starting another argument about it, it was definitely time.....BUT if I had known Scott was going to shit in his ****ing loafers with this hire, I would have definitely been in favor of giving Stans a year to right the ship. How could you possibly **** up a hire this bad....and how could you possibly allow him to spiral this program further and further down the damn toilet every game without doing something about it? Scott needs to either step up, or step out.

[bluelightstar]

I literally don't understand why people think Ray should be fired mid-season. This team isn't going to magically go on a run with or without him.

He should finish the year, and be gone the next day. I'm even fine with announcing he will not be retained once we have a couple games left.

[CadaverDawg]

I literally don't understand why people think Ray should be fired mid-season. This team isn't going to magically go on a run with or without him.

He should finish the year, and be gone the next day. I'm even fine with announcing he will not be retained once we have a couple games left.

I don't want him fired because "I think we'll go on a run"....I want him fired because he doesn't deserve to stand on the sidelines. I want him fired so that all those coaches that might have interest, will know that there is an opening at MSU, and so we may possibly gauge some early interest. Hell no we aren't going on a run...I just want him gone because he was a garbage hire. What the hell good is going to do to keep him? At least if we got Richard Williams or someone in there as interim and they were able to show a little improvement down the stretch...that MIGHT look a little more enticing to a coach that is looking for a good pay day at a Power 5 school

[cheewgumm]

Honestly nobody really cares about bball anymore do they?

[bluelightstar]

I don't want him fired because "I think we'll go on a run"....I want him fired because he doesn't deserve to stand on the sidelines. I want him fired so that all those coaches that might have interest, will know that there is an opening at MSU, and so we may possibly gauge some early interest. Hell no we aren't going on a run...I just want him gone because he was a garbage hire. What the hell good is going to do to keep him? At least if we got Richard Williams or someone in there as interim and they were able to show a little improvement down the stretch...that MIGHT look a little more enticing to a coach that is looking for a good pay day at a Power 5 school

I just disagree with you. A midseason firing doesn't do anything except satisfy fan bloodlust. He obviously isn't going to be successful here, but unless and until he does something that embarrasses the university (I mean, besides having a crappy team), you don't fire him yet.

[msstate7]

Honestly nobody really cares about bball anymore do they?

Look at all the fire Ray, hire whoever threads. We still care a little. If Ray gets another year, it may kill even the remaining interest.

[CadaverDawg]

I just disagree with you. A midseason firing doesn't do anything except satisfy fan bloodlust. He obviously isn't going to be successful here, but unless and until he does something that embarrasses the university (I mean, besides having a crappy team), you don't fire him yet.

Yea, I'll just agree to disagree. I think you fire Ray now, hopefully hire Williams as interim, and start reaching out to agents and letting people know that we are about to pay BIG money to our next coach if he is the right guy. Meanwhile hopefully Williams improves the team a little bit, and we look at least a LITTLE more like we have something in the cupboard for our next coach.

But I respect your point.

[CadaverDawg]

Look at all the fire Ray, hire whoever threads. We still care a little. If Ray gets another year, it may kill even the remaining interest.

This^

[Dawg61]

I literally don't understand why people think Ray should be fired mid-season. This team isn't going to magically go on a run with or without him.

He should finish the year, and be gone the next day. I'm even fine with announcing he will not be retained once we have a couple games left.

Sounds to me like you don't want to be mean to Ray. **** that!! He's become a multi-millionaire thanks to MSU. We don't owe him shit. He's going to get his buyout too. Which should be a crime of theft btw.

[yjnkdawg]

When you look at our players statistics in high school, most of the players could shoot. Sword was Mr Basketball in AL and hit over 50% from 3 point land. with Carver winning a State Championship. Houston was 6A player of the year and could shoot and I haven't really checked on others really close, but glancing through some info it appears that most could shoot in high school, but have regressed when they came to MSU. I know there is a difference in high school and the SEC, but wouldn't some of that be due to coaching? I feel sorry for our players because I think they came into a tough situation where it is not all their fault for this season, and a lot beyond their control.

[yjnkdawg]

CD, I didn't get a chance to answer you on the closed thread, because when I got on ED, it was locked, but I agree with you on it being a good hire.

[preachermatt83]

I don't want him fired because "I think we'll go on a run"....I want him fired because he doesn't deserve to stand on the sidelines. I want him fired so that all those coaches that might have interest, will know that there is an opening at MSU, and so we may possibly gauge some early interest. Hell no we aren't going on a run...I just want him gone because he was a garbage hire. What the hell good is going to do to keep him? At least if we got Richard Williams or someone in there as interim and they were able to show a little improvement down the stretch...that MIGHT look a little more enticing to a coach that is looking for a good pay day at a Power 5 school

nailed it!

[Irondawg]

Strick should have his pulse on the locker room as well. I have no idea what's going on in there if the players like or dislike Ray, etc.

There's clearly some locker room issues besides Ray, but it's also clear that other than FSU game something is going very, very wrong. Somehow we went from looking decent at the start of the year without supposedly our best player to looking like the worst team in P5 by a longshot.

Yeah, firing a coach midseason is usually worthless unless the guy has made the school look bad with on off-field/court incident but this thing is getting out of hand.

[Dawg61]

Yeah, firing a coach midseason is usually worthless unless the guy has made the school look bad with on off-field/court incident but this thing is getting out of hand.

It gives us months more of time to hire a replacement. Didn't Auburn get a jump on the end of the season last year and land Pearl before the season was even done? Get feelers out there at 2-2.5 mill a year and hire a search committee. No reason at all we shouldn't land a top 25 HC.

[CadaverDawg]

It gives us months more of time to hire a replacement. Didn't Auburn get a jump on the end of the season last year and land Pearl before the season was even done? Get feelers out there at 2-2.5 mill a year and hire a search committee. No reason at all we shouldn't land a top 25 HC.

Boom.

[woozman]

It gives us months more of time to hire a replacement. Didn't Auburn get a jump on the end of the season last year and land Pearl before the season was even done? Get feelers out there at 2-2.5 mill a year and hire a search committee. No reason at all we shouldn't land a top 25 HC.

I agree, but no way we are going to pay $2 million + a year for a basketball coach.

[Dawgface]

I wouldn't have a problem with a mid season firing, but doubt we do that. It has never been our way of handling a termination. Perhaps at some point during the season Scott can simply announce that the bb program will be evaluated at season end. That will pretty much let everyone know what is coming. Of couse start putting together a list of potential coaches now.

[Political Hack]

How much of this is on Strick? Is firing Ray at season's end really enough to save Strick's job? How in the hell could he have possibly thought this was a good hire? Why did he piss off the coaches association? Why wouldn't he invest in the hire given the amount of sec money we were about to start accumulating?

I'm not so sure both of them shouldn't clean out their offices at seasons end.

[msstate7]

How much of this is on Strick? Is firing Ray at season's end really enough to save Strick's job? How in the hell could he have possibly thought this was a good hire? Why did he piss off the coaches association? Why wouldn't he invest in the hire given the amount of sec money we were about to start accumulating?

I'm not so sure both of them shouldn't clean out their offices at seasons end.

I'm fine with keeping Scott at the moment. If Scott lets his pride get in the way of firing ray at season's end, that would change things. Scott has to admit he was wrong by firing ray and realize he won't be making the next hire by himself

[Political Hack]

I'm fine with keeping Scott at the moment. If Scott lets his pride get in the way of firing ray at season's end, that would change things. Scott has to admit he was wrong by firing ray and realize he won't be making the next hire by himself

that's just it though. Why have an AD of an SEC school that you don't trust to make a head coaching hire? Is there something else that's more important?