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At this point it's probably better that malik isn't coming here. If malik signed with us, we probably keep ray. No player is worth keeping ray at this point. Sad, but true
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Again, why do we care?
One player that would be here for 1 year probably wouldn't help us very much.
It looks kinda bad when a top 5 player nationally who is a legacy of our program says FU and goes somewhere else. Not that our program could look any worse, but jesus christ why would any top player come here at this point in time.
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Originally Posted by
JohnnyQuid
It looks kinda bad when a top 5 player nationally who is a legacy of our program says FU and goes somewhere else. Not that our program could look any worse, but jesus christ why would any top player come here at this point in time.
Well thats the main thing- Ray hasnt been able to even make us a viable choice. Newman literally cant risk his future by coming to State. You cant blame him
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
At this point it's probably better that malik isn't coming here. If malik signed with us, we probably keep ray. No player is worth keeping ray at this point. Sad, but true
Malik is a program changer. He could pack the Hump and bring attention back to the program. All Ray had to do was just show a little improvement. And just sign a couple of pieces to play with him. Ray just couldn't do it.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Well thats the main thing- Ray hasnt been able to even make us a viable choice. Newman literally cant risk his future by coming to State. You cant blame him
agree 100%
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Malik is a program changer. He could pack the Hump and bring attention back to the program. All Ray had to do was just show a little improvement. And just sign a couple of pieces to play with him. Ray just couldn't do it.
agree with this also........
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Well thats the main thing- Ray hasnt been able to even make us a viable choice. Newman literally cant risk his future by coming to State. You cant blame him
Looks like we posted at about the same time and I agree with your first sentence. As for your second sentence, Newman is going to be a top 5 pick no matter where he goes. He could go to Belhaven and be a top pick. He's the best player I have ever seen at the high school level and I have seen some good ones. He scored 34 last night against a team from Chicago that was double teaming him the whole game. He literally has no weakness on the offensive end.
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Man that would be ironic if Stand pulled Newman.
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Just note that before we start giving Stans ton of credit for infusing TAMU with recruiting prowess, I think all those highly rated guys are from Texas.
By comparison we could have signed the top 3 players from MS the past 4 years and still might be a NIT team at best.
TAMU basically trying to flip the script on UT and it appears to be working.
Stans had lost it at MSU but if Newman goes there it would be extreme salt in the wound.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Malik is a program changer. He could pack the Hump and bring attention back to the program. All Ray had to do was just show a little improvement. And just sign a couple of pieces to play with him. Ray just couldn't do it.
I mean like, why can't like Rick Ray, like land a couple good recruits. I mean like, he surely has like a great sales pitch, I mean like one that couldn't be like turned down by like a high school player.
Been saying this was his main downfall in recruiting from the first time I heard him talk. Unless Stricklin was piss drunk and stoned in the interview(s) of Ray, he should have picked up on this in the first, say, 15 seconds of the talk. Bottom line everything is on Strick. Ray shouldn't have been put in a situation to fail like this.
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The sad thing is, is there is another 5* legacy 20 minutes down the road in Columbus that we probably won't get as long as Ray is the head coach. Woodward and also Antonio McDyess' kid probably won't be coming here.
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By the same token IF nean would have committed to us last year he could have told the staff he's going public but if they can't get pieces around him that he wasn't signing. We might have been able to lure another stud or two to play with him.
Given what Ray had to sell I thought he actually did pretty well with this last class.
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Malik Newman would be a fool to go to any SEC school NOT named Kentucky. That's just the facts.
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Originally Posted by
JohnnyQuid
It looks kinda bad when a top 5 player nationally who is a legacy of our program says FU and goes somewhere else. Not that our program could look any worse, but jesus christ why would any top player come here at this point in time.
I wouldn't let my kid play basketball at State right now. I'd make him take Georgia Southern over a State offer.
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He should go to UK he can play with another Mississippian for a year. He would only have to play 20-30 minutes a game so less risk of injury and still be a 1st rounder.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
I said "a couple of reasons". Their recruiting class is reason #2
Hahaha. Coach way weasel out of that.Quick someone else come up with#3.
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Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
Malik Newman would be a fool to go to any SEC school NOT named Kentucky. That's just the facts.
I don't really agree with this. There are teams with talent that could surround him, and he'd be THE star. Go to kentucky for what? Play 10 mins per game on one of the "2 squads". I can see many percs of going to an SEC team that's not kentucky... n look at kentucky. Back to back OT wins vs sub par competition. It's buncha one year guys who've barely played together. Like i watch that team and think... '96 dogs would walk that ass. seriously.
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Originally Posted by
tcdog70
Hahaha. Coach way weasel out of that.Quick someone else come up with#3.
I said:
"leaning Texas A&M right now for a couple of reasons"
This aint rocket surgery Pops
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
JohnnyQuid
I don't really agree with this. There are teams with talent that could surround him, and he'd be THE star. Go to kentucky for what? Play 10 mins per game on one of the "2 squads". I can see many percs of going to an SEC team that's not kentucky... n look at kentucky. Back to back OT wins vs sub par competition. It's buncha one year guys who've barely played together. Like i watch that team and think... '96 dogs would walk that ass. seriously.
Malik isn't going to UK. He wants to play 35 minutes a game.
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Originally Posted by
JohnnyQuid
I don't really agree with this. There are teams with talent that could surround him, and he'd be THE star. Go to kentucky for what? Play 10 mins per game on one of the "2 squads". I can see many percs of going to an SEC team that's not kentucky... n look at kentucky. Back to back OT wins vs sub par competition. It's buncha one year guys who've barely played together. Like i watch that team and think... '96 dogs would walk that ass. seriously.
Because SEC hoops suck. At Kentucky he would be playing in front of huge crowds, and he would win Championships. And no, no SEC teams have the kind of talent surrounding him that could help him get to a Final Four. He would have to do it all on his own anywhere other than UK or somewhere outside of the SEC. I hate saying that, but it's true.
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